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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"
Your wife would opt for the £400,000. She'd be able to do more shopping.
Seriously though, it doesn't matter how much some people are on, they still want more. I remember reading that Ashley Cole thought the £60k per week he was on at Arsenal was an insult so he moved to Chelsea for more. Wayne Rooney was on mega bucks but still demanded more.
At least our rugby players earn there money.
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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"i wouldnt say they dont like RL but i think there dont really care about it. Only time i would consider changing my job is if im on £6 per hour and i was offered £7 per hour yes but its hardly comparable to £300k a year to £400k a year and i wouldnt change it if i loved the job i was in and really enjoyed it if the new job was something i werent sure about and thought it could make me unhappy and frustrated. Are you sure you are not a Rugby Union fan on the sly?'"
The amount of remuneration is irrelevant and certainly Joel wasn't being paid anyway near £300k at Wigan. They have a very short career and need to maximise their earning potential. Unfortunately at the moment that means RU calling given their lack of talent. Given the likely massive pay rises some will get by moving to RU it'll be a no-brainer for some.
No I'm not a RU fan at all, I just engaged my brain and can see it is a job, and therefore why it would be attractive to some especially from an economic viewpoint.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"If he stays in RU I think this questionmark will always hang over him.
People keep saying there'll be big money in Aus once the new TV deal kicks in. We know for a fact that at least one top NRL club (Cronulla) were enquiring about Joel's availability. If he'd hung on another year, maybe he'd have got a really big bite of the Aussie cherry and, at the same time, been able to prove himself on a really demanding world stage rather than wasting his time, talent and athleticism in Union.
I understand that guys want to set themselves up for life financially, though I suspect he'd have been able to do that anyway in due course. In this day and age, with the NRL opening up so much, any British star who goes to Union rather than trying his hand Down Under will be criticised for taking the easy option, whether it's justified or not.
Certianly no-one will believe he was drawn to Saracens because big things are happening there. The only big things happening at Saracens will be, as you said in another thread, if we deign to teach them a thing or two.'"
i was speaking in relation to raw power. Ie Olympic lifts etc as a test. In League you may not see this as they would have the extra fatigue from the more aerobic nature of the sport and as such were performing under a fatigued state hence it may not have seemed that way.
They came back functionally conditioned for union and had to get there bodies conditioned back in to the demands of League.
In my opinion and in my experiences Union conditioners are far superior to League because they have more money to spend on them and moved away from the old boys network of ex players long ago.
We are catching up now, but I would say the perceived differences occur because of the different functional requirements of the 2 sports.
There is a much higher rest to work ratio in Union and as suck the players do not need the same anearobic capacity and can shift towards anaerobic capacity and power without having a detrimental effect on performance, in the Union code.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"i was speaking in relation to raw power. Ie Olympic lifts etc as a test. In League you may not see this as they would have the extra fatigue from the more aerobic nature of the sport and as such were performing under a fatigued state hence it may not have seemed that way.
They came back functionally conditioned for union and had to get there bodies conditioned back in to the demands of League.
In my opinion and in my experiences Union conditioners are far superior to League because they have more money to spend on them and moved away from the old boys network of ex players long ago.
We are catching up now, but I would say the perceived differences occur because of the different functional requirements of the 2 sports.
There is a much higher rest to work ratio in Union and as suck the players do not need the same anearobic capacity and can shift towards anaerobic capacity and power without having a detrimental effect on performance, in the Union code.'"
You mean they're fat and lazy in Union? 
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"The amount of remuneration is irrelevant and certainly Joel wasn't being paid anyway near £300k at Wigan. They have a very short career and need to maximise their earning potential. Unfortunately at the moment that means RU calling given their lack of talent. Given the likely massive pay rises some will get by moving to RU it'll be a no-brainer for some.
No I'm not a RU fan at all, I just engaged my brain and can see it is a job, and therefore why it would be attractive to some especially from an economic viewpoint.'"
i werent suggesting joel was on any were near 300k i was on about sa there and him being on that money i dont see why he cant commit to wigan til the 5 yrs are up. Its boring now all this everyone has a opinon and there all entitled to it
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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"i werent suggesting joel was on any were near 300k i was on about sa there and him being on that money i dont see why he cant commit to wigan til the 5 yrs are up. Its boring now all this everyone has a opinon and there all entitled to it'"
Indeed. You need to get over the fact that people can and will move jobs.
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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"i werent suggesting joel was on any were near 300k i was on about sa there and him being on that money i dont see why he cant commit to wigan til the 5 yrs are up. Its boring now all this everyone has a opinon and there all entitled to it'"
Because in 5 years time the offer might not be on the table anymore, never mind that fact that he could have lost out on (at a minimum) £500k before tax in those terms.
Fact is at the minute Union is viewed as being "the next step" for emerging young league talents, I don't blame a single one of them for going (as long as they do it with dignity - high Kyle  ) it's up to the RFL on the whole to change that perception.
I'd prefer it if they went to the NRL, but at the end of the day, you could earn more money with less disruption to your life staying in England and moving to Union.
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"Because in 5 years time the offer might not be on the table anymore, never mind that fact that he could have lost out on (at a minimum) £500k before tax in those terms.
Fact is at the minute Union is viewed as being "the next step" for emerging young league talents, I don't blame a single one of them for going (as long as they do it with dignity - high Kyle
) it's up to the RFL on the whole to change that perception.
I'd prefer it if they went to the NRL, but at the end of the day, you could earn more money with less disruption to your life staying in England and moving to Union.'"
i think that is rubbish about union being next step not every player thinks like that i am friends with quite a few good RL players and they dont think like that
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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"i think that is rubbish about union being next step not every player thinks like that i am friends with quite a few good RL players and they dont think like that'"
It's only viewed that way once an offer from Union is on the table. A quadruple pay increase will turn anyone's head but it's not an option for every single player in league
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| Quote RLFC2008="RLFC2008"i think that is rubbish about union being next step not every player thinks like that i am friends with quite a few good RL players and they dont think like that'"
Of course they all won't, in fact the majority won't because they wouldn't have a position in Rugby Union, just as many Rugby Union players wouldn't have one in Rugby League. If Joels new salary is to be believed then no one with any sense at all would begrudge him having a go. At worst he could be back in RL in three years time, almost a millionaire. It's a short career.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Of course they all won't, in fact the majority won't because they wouldn't have a position in Rugby Union, just as many Rugby Union players wouldn't have one in Rugby League. If Joels new salary is to be believed then no one with any sense at all would begrudge him having a go. At worst he could be back in RL in three years time, almost a millionaire. It's a short career.'"
Another one that still thinks joel getting £400k a year  , £400k over 3 years maybe
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| Quote dirtbag83="dirtbag83"It's only viewed that way once an offer from Union is on the table. A quadruple pay increase will turn anyone's head but it's not an option for every single player in league'"
That's spot on I'm good mates with a player who went over to union & he'd never even given union a second thought until he was offered a deal. His feelings before he signed were basically can't stand the game & don't really understand it but the first year of the contract will buy my house so i'm going for atleast a year & if I don't pick it up I'll come back to league which he promptly did. As long as union can throw more money at people than we can there's always going to be young lads getting their heads turned & fair play to them if they take it.
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