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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Personally I'd sooner Sam go to the NRL than Union, if that's the choice presented.
Somewhere in this there is a 'nod' to League over Union, we are clearly developing better players in our code if Union feel the need to lure them over with big bucks.
By the next RUWC we could potentially be looking at:
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12 Probably targeted another League bod by then
11 K Eastmond
Well done Union, you clearly are developing your own talent with such success.'"
Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?
The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape. |
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| Player Coach | 2284 | Wigan Warriors |
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?
The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"
Add Riki Flutey and Dylan Hartley to that list, the RFU is more of a UN based rugby team. |
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?
The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"
Normally once they get a bad injury going off that list! |
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?
The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"
and louis Anderson could be added to the list if his reported future french plans are to be believed. |
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Personally I'd sooner Sam go to the NRL than Union, if that's the choice presented.
Somewhere in this there is a 'nod' to League over Union, we are clearly developing better players in our code if Union feel the need to lure them over with big bucks.
By the next RUWC we could potentially be looking at:
15 S Tomkins
14 C Ashton
13 J Tomkins
12 Probably targeted another League bod by then
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Well done Union, you clearly are developing your own talent with such success.'"
They don't need to, why bother when you can pick up superbly fit and well drilled youngsters from RL for tuppence ha'penny?
They will use RL as a production line and their grip on the media will turn this into a positive for them through the usual pro-RU propaganda.  |
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Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"
neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad...... |
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad......'"
He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.
Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully |
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"
All you need to do is boot it out on the full from F/B in yawnion, I'm sure he'd manage. |
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| Quote DANN="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.
Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully'"
Neither do I.
However, Sam firing at 60% is a much more potent attacking force than most in the England RU setup. He will go, and we shouldn't blame him for doing so. |
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| Quote DANN="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.'"
Jason Robinson hardly ever played full back and you can't remember one occasion in league. 
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and I'm surprised Saints fans haven't been on this thread already to remind us of the 2000 GF, where the great man played at FB. |
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"
Sam's kicking game may not be world class, but he still has a very good kicking game. Its more to do with him being that good as a natural runner that his good kicking goes unnoticed, much like his defence (which is another myth about it being poor) |
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