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| Quote the-Bowtun-Warrior="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Agree with the OP 1000%
Sam is wasted at 1
We need steady halves - sam & finch
Amos on his day is the best player in SL. But only from FB.'"
Did you go to Huddersfield pal?
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| Quote grovelane="grovelane"Sam just isn't up to playing FB. Poor under the high ball and, his kick return is poor and i worry every time the opposition kick the ball to him, high or not. Yes he's good a support / broken play but I think the points mentioned earlier, along with last line of defence, should be priority for a FB.
Pat is our best full back, but he's more effective on the wing.'"
He's too small to play FB which, sadly, teams have worked out. I don't understand why we'd open up our most creative player to the kind of battering a FB gets on a weekly basis.
I'd put Richards at FB and have Charnley and Goulding on the wings. We lose Pat's height on kicks to the corner, but we also cut out the bomb that teams are hurting us with. As Maguire is a defence first coach I'd hope he makes this change when Richards is fit.
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| Quote the-Bowtun-Warrior="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Amos on his day is the best player in SL. But only from FB.'"
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| Quote loobyfromorrell="loobyfromorrell"Did you go to Huddersfield pal?'"
Yes I did
Amos was as bad under the high ball as Sam the week before, last week and at times this week...
Oh sorry. Amos isn't blue eyed boy or a Wiganer
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| Quote grovelane="grovelane"Sam just isn't up to playing FB. Poor under the high ball and, his kick return is poor and i worry every time the opposition kick the ball to him, high or not. Yes he's good a support / broken play but I think the points mentioned earlier, along with last line of defence, should be priority for a FB.
Pat is our best full back, but he's more effective on the wing.'"
Whilst I think Sam should be our #1 I fully disagree with some of your comments.
Sam was, apart from one error, solid under the bomb. It was a definate marked improvement from the Salford game which is all we can ask. I also think his background at HB means he's the best out of him, Pat & the flapper at linking in from deep.
A new FB & centre is a must next season. Let's get at least one world class back who has been there and done it.
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| Given we've got two of the best fullbacks ever under a a high ball currently on the coaching staff, the dropsy being displayed is shocking and needs sorting.
Extra work after training for Roberts and Tomkins.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Given we've got two of the best fullbacks ever under a a high ball currently on the coaching staff, the dropsy being displayed is shocking and needs sorting.
Extra work after training for Roberts and Tomkins.'"
That's the thing Sam HAS improved from the Salford game. He made some decent catches under pressure tonight and whilst errors are still occurring I honestly believe he's cut them in half.
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| Quote Dave Lister="Dave Lister"I've already bookmarked it to have a good laugh at how terrible Finch has been all season.'"
please be sure to have the good grace to come back so we dont have to look for you ~~~??
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| I'd move Sam back to 6 if for no other reason then to get him out of the firing line when running kicks back. He's being targeted by opposition defences who seem able to get away with various acts of foul play against him yet he's being watched like a hawk if he dares stick up for himself.
Lets get him some more ball closer to the action and lets get him running our team. His kicking out of hand when given the opportunity looks to have improved and he's as lively as ever running the ball.
He's a good option to have as a fullback in certain games but at the moment we need him in the halfs.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Given we've got two of the best fullbacks ever under a a high ball currently on the coaching staff, the dropsy being displayed is shocking and needs sorting.
Extra work after training for Roberts and Tomkins.'"
And Leuluai! How many kickoffs is that he's dropped, under no pressure?
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| Sam at 6, end of. He is no longer dangerous at 1.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Given we've got two of the best fullbacks ever under a a high ball currently on the coaching staff, the dropsy being displayed is shocking and needs sorting.
Extra work after training for Roberts and Tomkins.'"
Yes, but that doesn't mean that the knowledge they posses and attempt to pass on is automatically absorbed by the trainees. If that were the case then any Wigan player could be brought up to their level.
A lot of it is natural ability, like Sam's side step.
I agree that training could improve them but they will never be as good as the two teachers.
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