I would imagine we will get 3-3.5k for our game against next them next year, we will have the end nearest on the main rd

no, just using Google maps, and if you think that you will 'OWN' your new ground outright, you are deluded.

Only Wigan fans could mock our good news. Say what you like but for just one season on the road, we will be blessed with a state of the art RL stadium which will be infinitely better than nearly all other "Rugby" grounds (DW not included as you are tenants). Probably only the KC stadium and Galpharm will be an equal.

We will generate much more income when we move in. I would anticipate a notable increase in the average attendance and the fact that it will be used all year round i.e conference facilities, wedding receptions etc, then its a real money spinner for the club.

We are still St. Helens RLFC and from 2012 we will be St. Helens RLFC with a brand spanking new stadium that we wont need permission to play in. You have the cheek to have a go at us, when you had to play a play off game at Widnes because Uncle Dave called the shots.

We won't be renting it off a football team.

Wigan is a football town now.

IM A WIGAN FAN

St Helens will never have a 20,000 crowd on as long as I live. It just shows that St Helens is not really a RL town. They don't even have the excuse of a Premier League team to compete with! They will never even have a Premier League team as long as I live. What is the point of the town of St Helens and thier existence in all honesty? For us just to laugh at?

And do St Helens fans really think they will OWN their stadium from 2012?! Deluded.

First of all i don't think Saints position is embaressing, staying in that dump of a ground would be embaressing, they'll have a new stadium then and i'm glad to be honest.
But also, all this 'renting it off a football team' business, who cares? it mean we have a bigger stadium with far better facilities and on match days it doesn't seem to me like we don't own it.
this thread was just asking for trouble really

Of course we won't have a 20,000 crowd on, given our capacity will be 18,000



And we have had maximum crowds on against Wigan and Warrington over the years (17,500) and if our capacity would have been 20,000 would probably have filled it. Can't really see your point there, given that your 20,000 crowds are against us and Wire also.

And seeing as you are such an expert, who will own the ground then?

I'm not an expert at all.
Do you think you will own the ground?
And why is it not going to have a 20,000+ capacity?
Surely a 'purpose built RL ground' when you don't even have a pro football team to compete with would be at least 20,000.

Am not going to lie and say that we would get 25,000 crowds, so there is no point in us having a 25-30k capacity if two thirds are constantly empty.

Have no idea why the 18,000 was mooted but given we only really sell out against Wigan (and sometimes Wire) then its about right. A capacity crowd (with standing behind the sticks don't forget) will make for a great atmosphere.

And you have not answered my question. If we don't own the ground (which you state we won't) then who does? Put it one way, we won't have to ask permission to play or be forced to change fixtures due to a football team

Well you not gonna pay for all the stadium upfront are you!

Your club is simply not big enough for a 20,000 stadium. You only wish you were.

Your little town is not good enough to ever have a Premier League club. You can only dream of watching your home town club in the Premier League. Sorry mate.

Quite ironic comment that given that Latics fans and Wigan RL fans can't stand each other. Now, because it suits your argument you are using their Premier League status. Fact is mate, you share your ground and the football team calls the shots. As Benitez says, thats a fact. They say jump, you say how high.

I too wish we had more fans. Am very disappointed that with the size of the town and no other sports to compete with, that we had a better average attendance. But having put up with the Old Girl for so long, we will have an increased average attendance in the new stadium much the same as Wire did, as more families will attend, better facilities etc.