ok as you are picking selected stats try these.
penalties given away fielden 16 feka 5
errors 18 14
missed tackles 51 33
busts 78 97
offloads 14 42
yards made 2557 2678
these are from last year.
the only thing fielden is better at is tackling, these stats are from last season if they played the same this season feka would be shown to be the better again.
i like fielden he is a top forward he just needs to cut out the errors get on with the game and stop whineing when he mucks up, and then he will be back to his best.

He is playing better this year than last, so the stats are rather irrelevant

Yeah.. let's go off last years form. You really aren't helping yourself.

Last season we finished 6th and got only 15 wins. This season we are top and already have 10 wins. You compare Fielden's stats to Feka's this season and Fielden's are better. I much prefer the current situation than any from last season or the last god knows how many seasons.

Sorry, to respond like this cause you've been really nice about the way you posted it

but you've not actually looked into what those stats tell you.

Looking further into the numbers you posted:
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Category SF IP Delta(SF-IP)
% of missed tackles 7.11 9.85 -2.74
% Penalties (if all defence) per tackle 2.23 1.21 1.02
% Penalties (if all attack) per carry 4.54 1.49 3.05
% Errors (if all defence) per tackle 2.51 3.39 -0.88
% Errors (if all attack) per carry 5.11 4.18 0.93
[/code

So Stu actually:
Misses 2.74% less tackles
gives out 1.02% more penalties (if all penalties came when defending)
gives out 3.05% more penalties (if all penalties came when attacking)
makes =#FF00400.93% more errors per carry (assuming all 'errors' happen during a carry)

It's even more interesting if you do the same analysis on some other players, you'll unsuprisingly find the same trend, i.e. the players who do more work often concede a higher % of penatlies and make a higher % of errors.

The numbers don't seem to back up perceptions, and neither do the coaches selections.

You did make my chuckle by saying =#FF0040all he does is tackle better though (it's a pretty significant part of the game

)

you may as well print in latin.
all i know is feka entertains me fielden frustrates me.

Go and watch the reserves only then.

why?

A lot of this is argument is irrelevant.


They are 2 completely different players doing different jobs for the TEAM

Both have their strengths and weaknesses, even though on here and Warriors fans forums Fielden is very often not fit to burn but fans favourite Feka is the best thing since sliced bread

I posted about these 2 last year on the warriors fans defending Fielden v Feka

Both this year have made significant improvements from last year. Fielden looks more like the player we signed. He is getting through a lot of the hard work that is required from a prop forward. Defensively he is sound and is taking up the ball far better than he has done since he 1st joined us (or that is the perception). Feka has done the hard work in shifting the excess weight and must be applauded as this was one of my main criticisms, how can a professional player be so out of shape. The challenge it appears has been getting used to his new size / shape, which he now appears to be getting. His game time has improved on last year, his defence has improved (but couldn't really get any worse) and he is now back to making good metres with the ball in hand.

all in all we should be glad that we have got them both in the side as it gives us options. We have the prop willing to do the hard graft, and we have another one with something different that can change a game in attack.

I dont know what the 2 earn but would expect them both to be extending their contracts, but feel that Fielden is the most likely as he appears to be more the MM type of player, but can we afford to lose the impact / attacking option that Feka gives us

I suppose it depends who we replace him with. I wouldn't expect any of them to be released unless we can find adequate replacements.

dont watch the NRL so have no idea about top aussie / kiwi props playing over there

from over here there are some good props but are there many outstanding ones. I would say Graham at Saints (but would be move), Morley and Peacock (not long term options), but outside of that there really isn't anyone who stands out and thats not saying there aren't any good props out there

We have some good young ones with Prescott and O Carroll, Davies is also well talked about, and Mossop is likely to move their longer term I feel.

Is Hock an option at prop if he is given a new contract? Can he bulk up ala Andy Platt? Do we need another back row forward at the club given all the talent / youth that we have coming through

MM will obviously have his ideas on how he wants to shape the squad moving forward and based on what i've seen so far I would trust his judgement

I think Andy Lynch has been excellent this season, would do a good job for us IMO