I beg you to find out what ML did for Wigan ASAP.

Whatever people want to say about Mo there are a couple of things not to ignore or forget.

Whilst on the one hand you have all the success and all the trophies that was in no small part down to him you also have the fact that losing Central Park the way we did was also largely down to the way the club had been run and not down to the brief period that was under Jack.
Mo did some great things. No question.
We had some fantastic times on the back of his leadership.

But, and wether some like to face the fact or not is irreleavant, ultimately that route we took was ultimately our downfall. It bankrupted us.

Despite winning everythin on offer we were spending so much that in the eyes of Ernst and Young who the banks appointed to look into our finances we ended up "technically insolvent".

Lets not paint such a rosy picture and ignore the elephant in the room eh?
Not all was well.

But on the pitch it was bloody fantastic!

Without them taking so many risks Wigan would not be the biggest and most prestigeous club in world rugby.

That is a tag you cannot buy and somehow we have that title.

We now play in a wonderful stadium and our figures will be sorted soon once IL sorts everything out.

We are fine now, thats all that matters

Lets not get boggled down with the "what if's" hey?

The Whitbread /Boston Stand was the real killer. It went almost 100% over budget, and there were no grants at that time for stadium redevelopment Then came the ARL / Superleague war in Australia which put the knife in and twisted it.

he did good for wigan at times, look the first time he jumped ship he had us in the , he came back and did it again, giving massive contracts out to every tom dick and harry, now look at where we stand

I can't say I understand what your point is.

The tread was supposed to be about Mo.
So the fact that your saying "IL will soon have the figures right" and "that we are ok now thats all that matters" means what exactly? we weren't ok then?

I'm not wanting to go into a big re hash of the CP issue - i have not got the time at the minute, sadly. - but i don't see how you can ignore that when it comes to Mo as if he was in no way involved with the financial mess we ended up in.
The financial reports made it clear it was a long term problem.

Please explain why you think he jumped ship the first time around, and also explain why you think he left us in the poop?

thankyou

He honestly can't be for real. I don't know how old you are - I'm barely old enough to remember what Mo did for Wigan first time but please if you are un-educated on the matter - do not continue to post.

im old enought to know whats goin, mo left us to go to the rfl, he left it to jack robinson who didnt have a clue what to do, mo then came back to take over again and start spending the money he didnt have AGAIN, maybe thats why its a long term financial trouble where in, he had to leave us because he was ill, yet still had something to do with the latics

You presumably would have preferred us to continue trundling along at the bottom of the First Division, occasionally getting relegated, never winning any trophies, playing to 6,000 crowds max?

Mo gambled more than he should, but he was very unlucky with the subsidence under the new stand. That cost us a fortune, and was the real beginning of our financial problems. Even so, we're still alive, we're still here - and we have a package of awsome memories from that era.

Mo made Wigan into so powerful a brand that they were never likely to be short of buyers when they ran into difficulty.

In a way he made us too powerful. The glory days ended approx 10 years ago this weekend IMO, and we've never yet been able to live up to the standards that we ourselves set. It torments the Wigan fans daily, as these message boards will attest.

I agree.

Left us in the ... Only to return and do the exact same thing, and now he's a f^ckin director at Latics.

You lot make me laugh, you go on about 'Legend That Sorts It' being too young to understand, get over yourselves.

Which of you two gets top bunk?