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| I think you are being harsh on Roberts.
The guy has great acceleration which he showed today, and his wonderful work set up a great try for Richards, which sealed the game. The break (again which was great work) were he was caught by Fox, put you in a good position to attack. Can't remember if anything came of it but when a player makes a break people think they should score and deem it a disappointment when they don't.
Tomkins was immense, an obvious talent and showed a side to his game which shows he's maturing by taking the game by the scruff of the neck. Same for young MM, when he came on he competley changed the pace of the game and I found it astonishing the way he took you forward despite your props bar Prescott being average at best.
Riddell has looked poor every single time I've seen him play this season, very slow and lacklustre. Fielden and Feka didn't have too much of an impact and Joel Tomkins has a shocker. Mossop surely would do a better job i'd hope it's only a matter of time before Farrell/Davies/Flannagn gets a chance. Although you wouldn't want to disrupte the great work of the reserves by taking out the top performers such as those 3.
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| Quote RB="RB"Showed no bottle or pace -
Fox is probably faster than Penny and that says a lot. And how did he show no bottle? Just walking on the the pitch shows bottle. Nice of him to say that behind his PC.
Defence is weak - On what basis? I didn't see him miss many tackles except the break down their line where he almost got the winger into touch.
Under the high ball - Sun was in his eyes, under pressure. HKR were lucky that it fell to their man but the circumstances were poor. Ainscough wouldn't have even attempted to jump for it.'"
But what you fail to see is that because he is "Keeping Ainscough out" that in itself is enough to call him rubbish or a disgrace!
Played well tonight IMO.
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It's the same with Piggy & MM.
Piggy has played better than him last 3 games but as soon as MM has the better game they all start again! 
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| Quote jjb10="jjb10"J Tomkins wasn't brilliant today dropped a couple of balls and through one into touch when ROBERTS over ran the pass. But he give 110% evry week his support play isnt too bad either.
As for Feka, what does he give the side that Fielden doesn't yet we want Fielden shot half the time. Can he play 50 mins +? NO, can he make 30+ tackles a game? NO, does he do one good run a game and get's everyone excited YES. My opinion of Feka has reduced week on week, he seems to be offering less, yet escaping any flack; and what has happened to his diet and susposed fitness drive????'"
But if we're going to criticise every player who made a mistake today then J Tomkins shouldn't be immune.
Also, Feka actually breaks tackles, makes yards and creates tries with his offloads and creates space for others because he attracts more tacklers. Fielden plays for 50mins + but when's the last time you saw him make more than 3 yards, offload, create a try. Oh, and i suspect Fielden drops a lot more ball in the tackle and gives away more penalties. Feka's defence isn't immune from criticism but you're not telling me you're pleased with Fielden's contribution?
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| Quote RB="RB"Showed no bottle or pace -
Fox is probably faster than Penny and that says a lot. '"
Which Salford player is as fast as either? He failed to take then on with pace as well in the league game when Gleeson put him away several times. Par for the course.
Quote RBAnd how did he show no bottle? Just walking on the the pitch shows bottle. Nice of him to say that behind his PC.'"
I should have edited that bit out too as it is nothing to do with it.
Quote RBDefence is weak - On what basis? I didn't see him miss many tackles except the break down their line where he almost got the winger into touch.'"
You don't see Ainscough miss many either do you?
Quote RBUnder the high ball - Sun was in his eyes, under pressure. HKR were lucky that it fell to their man but the circumstances were poor. Ainscough wouldn't have even attempted to jump for it.'"
Now if you are going to say things like saying he has no bottle are wrong you will have to accept saying things like Ainscough wouldn't have attempted to jump for it are a joke.
The fact is Roberts has not been some defensive Rock all season. He certainly has not been as effective as Ainscough on attack (absolute indisputable fact).
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"But what you fail to see is that because he is "Keeping Ainscough out" that in itself is enough to call him rubbish or a disgrace!'"
The reason he attracts the flack is he is no better than Ainscough defensively and worse on attack. So since he is keeping Ainscough out this is a problem.
Quote JukesaysIt's the same with Piggy & MM.
Piggy has played better than him last 3 games but as soon as MM has the better game they all start again!
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I doubt many would agree but in any case over the course of the season MM has been better than Riddell overall.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Which Salford player is as fast as either? He failed to take then on with pace as well in the league game when Gleeson put him away several times. Par for the course.
I should have edited that bit out too as it is nothing to do with it.
You don't see Ainscough miss many either do you?
Now if you are going to say things like saying he has no bottle are wrong you will have to accept saying things like Ainscough wouldn't have attempted to jump for it are a joke.
The fact is Roberts has not been some defensive Rock all season. He certainly has not been as effective as Ainscough on attack (absolute indisputable fact).
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No he has not, but he has made some telling contributions in defence tracking back, Ainscough has not been any better in defence, but probably has been slightly worse.
Roberts did well in attack, he is different to Ainscough, i would prefer Ainscough to play but having said that both make errors and perhaps Roberts contributes more in defence and still has acceptable go forward.
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| I think that Ainscough's try scoring record this year has been greatly helped by playing on the left wing. Richards is now up to 12 Sl tries.
I think a lot of people of very unfair on Roberts, I think he has improved as the season has gone on. Riddell still flatters to deceive and I actually thought Fielden had a good game today.
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| Richards on the left wing:
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Plenty of people are saying this should be Carmont's last season'"
And its a tough thing, but one I fully agree with.
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| Quote Mother Feka="Mother Feka"He isnt all bad he does some good things (made a few breaks today and did fantastic in the build up to pats 2nd try) if we didnt have Ainscough waiting for his place in the team behind him i dont think he would get as much criticism as he does but for me he just doesnt look d, and frankly i cant believe we gave him a 4 year contract
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he s SH@T
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| Quote shooter69="shooter69"he s SH@T'"
Insightful. Care to add any detail to that
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"Correct. Fox really can catch pigeons.'"
But lets not let that FACT get in the way
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