Without doubt.

That is some 'squad' and highlights how the standards have dropped in this country over the past few seasons.

We've seen over the past 2 or 3 years Saints and Leeds really dominate the game over here and then been left even more deflated as guys like McGuire, Sinfield, Burrow, Pryce, Wilkin etc get found out at the international level as nothing more then average jo's when they look immense in superleague.

and scott logan of 06

What do you know?

would it be



6. Tomkins
7. Luluai

with deacon coming on as sub or...

6. Tomkins
7. Deacon

with Lulaui coming on as sub

And Ian Lucas whilst remaining mild mannered did manage to improve under Monie for example.

I'm just saying, looking back on the two most important games we lost last season - the CC semi Against Warrington, and the Grand Final eliminator against Saints, we didn't lose either of them due to not having a prop that people wouldn't like to mess with.

Of course i'd like to see us improve in this department, I just don't feel that this season with Fielden, Feka and Coley still on contract is the season to do it - especially when we've yet to see what a different coach can get out of them, or the props that might have been available this year compared to who's out of contract for 2011

I know it was by having two props come off the bench and play crap.

6. Tomkins
7. Deacon

with McIlorum coming on as sub.

So is Tommy leaving?

No he's starting at 9.

In the CC semi we brought on Fielden and Feka at a point in the game where the momentum had shifted to Warrington and they'd started to put us under all kinds of repeat pressure - so we bring on a guy that's a walking target for them to run at.

The same combo came on against KR in the play-offs when we were not on the back foot and drove us even further in charge of the game.

Lucas improved but it was still something that held him back, in a team of star players, we have a team lacking personality somewhat which is why I think an enforcer type prop is crucial for long term success and it is not something that can be coached into a player to the required standards we lack.

Not a chance.

Look at the way Melbourne play. They don't use the scooter hooker.
Riddell will start.