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| Quote: Conroy "BTW, I'm not defending the Brigantes here I'm defending the reputation of Wigan Athletic fans.'" They don't take any fans away, joke club.
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| Quote: rufio "They don't take any fans away, joke club.'"
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| Quote: Conroy "Really? I've NEVER experienced that in the 20 years that I've been watching football.'"
Do you remember When it was either Rangers or Celtic played Man Utd in a champions league match about two years ago? All away fans had to travel to the DW stadium "Home of Wigan Athletic" where they got searched, given a ticket as pre-ordered and placed on coaches supplied by police.
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| Quote: Warrington Wolf "Do you remember When it was either Rangers or Celtic played Man Utd in a champions league match about two years ago? All away fans had to travel to the DW stadium "Home of Wigan Athletic" where they got searched, given a ticket as pre-ordered and placed on coaches supplied by police.'"
I do yes. It definitely exists I'm aware of that. I've just never experienced it. (maybe due to the small crowds usually involved)
I also remember being unable to drink in my seat at the Grand Final because of fighting in the previous two finals.
Rugby League fans are not all angels. There are numerous issues so stop putting the blame at the feet of football every time something goes wrong is my point. I remember trouble at the Wire/Hull game a few years back and straight away the excuse was that it was Hull City fans.
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| Conroy is defending Athletic not football, i have a few friends watch Athletic and they rarely see trouble.
Athletic are not a greatly supported club and in the grand scheme of things a fairly new team.
Aside to that, i've seen worse at football, i saw a couple of Barnsley fans a couple of years ago getting the living bejesus kicked out of them by about 12 QPR fans in Acton, that was unsavory and unwarranted.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Conroy is defending Athletic not football, '"
Correct
There are parts of the football experience that I wish were more like RL, but as I said above RL fans seem too quick to blame everything on football fans as opposed to admitting there's a problem.
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| The issue is not the Warriors fans, the latics fans, the wire fans or any sports club supporters. The problem lies within society today. These type of people live in every town and city in the UK! Rugby League as a "family" sport must work together to eradicate these scrotes from our great game.
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| Quote: Conroy "Correct
It's incredibly annoying when league fans try to shift the blame. When there's trouble people usually say "they aren't rugby fans" or "they must be football fans" when it's just plain stupid and moronic but some people want to bury their heads in the sand. Those people are attending a rugby league match, they've paid presumably because they are interested in rugby league - they are rugby league fans and if they are causing trouble then it's an issue within rugby league or Wigan.
I'm glad you're defending Latics. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever that they should even be brought into this argument.
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| It's nothing to do with football fans, but FWIW I have seen Latics fans herded outside a train station and escorted to an away ground - totally irrelevant to what's being discussed mind, but it has happened.
Everything seemed to change around the end of the 2011 season. The playoff game against Saints at Widnes was one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced, even though we lost. There was a great momentum with the Brigante thing and most fans were buying into it.
Something changed in 2012 and not for the better. Sad really and a missed opportunity to continue great work.
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "Everything seemed to change around the end of the 2011 season. The playoff game against Saints at Widnes was one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced, even though we lost. There was a great momentum with the Brigante thing and most fans were buying into it.
Something changed in 2012 and not for the better. Sad really and a missed opportunity to continue great work.'"
Spot on. I think a few of the older guys who were running it have left the group and the younger idiotic, hooligan wannabes have brought the whole ultra idea up. Whenever I see them all together, I never see some of the older guys that use to be running it when everyone was buying into it towards the end of the 2011 season.
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| I've always felt the whole Brigantes/Ultras thing more than a bit cringeworthy in whatever guise it took.
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| What it ends up doing is splitting the fans i guess, it's like saying if you're not a Brigante then you're not a proper fan and it creates division
It's like Catholics and Protestants, fighting over the same belief, daft as a brush.
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| Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..'"
Thats the same about any report of supporter trouble in rugby league.
- Someone from club A makes a post saying I saw incident X from supporters of club B
- Other fans of club A come on saying disgraceful, club B should be ashamed of themselves
- Fans of club B come on to say remember last year incident Y from supporters of club A
- Other fans of club B come on to say club A is the scum of rugby league
- Fans of club A say no club B is the scum of rugby league
Meanwhile sponsors realise why they sponsor a proper sport in RU with well behaved supporters from better bred sections of society rather than rugby league the game followed by the dregs of society.
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..'"
If you were at the game then you would have known. The fact the thread was started by one of your own fans suggests it is not trolling. Still at least Dave 26, Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about.
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