Personally I'd rather wait until the right coach becomes available, insted of panic buying a coach no better or worse than noble.

That wouldn't be the case with McGuire (if it's true). The guy is tipped to be the next big thing in Aus.

It would hardly be panic-buying either. Noble's had three years at Wigan, and though he's delivered in some areas, he hasn't in others. I think the club have been more patient with him than they would have in former eras.

Been more patient? Noble has saved us from relegation, and got us within 80 minutes of a grand final and challenge cup final. I'm sorry I don't think changing coaches after a bad result helps anything, look at the likes of Newcastle they had 3 coaches last year and looked what happens there.

If he only brought one thing, its stability, and god knows we needed it..

Congratulations on inventing a new spelling of definitely. Presumably you have already tried the very popular 'definatley' and 'definately' and decided to go for an original one of your own.
(Unless you are actually a bear, in which case, congratulations on your grasp of human language, not to mention computer and keyboard skills with those great big paws).

By the way, Hanley will be the next coach, assisted by Radlinski.

Sorry, but I'm not getting into all this again. Been through it a hundred times already on this message board. Suffice to say, there is all kinds of evidence that Nobby is not the man to take us to the next level. Not saying he hasn't stabilised us, etc, but we're a mid-table team - and you don't win trophies from mid-table. Add to that Nobby only wanting one more year - and what use to us is that?

Mike McGuire, if we get him, would be a very exciting development, and no more a 'panic buy' than Graham Lowe was.

I'm not saying I don't want a new coach, just want the right man that's all. Just all the noble hate talk really annoys me, he's done a good job and should be appriciated for his efforts, at the end of the day when he took over we where fighting relegation, 3 years later things are looking alot better. I just hope our next manager can make us step up to the next gear.

Although I understand your obvious strong views on McGuire - wasn't Noble dubbed by some fans as the man to take Wigan back to glory? These same fans have now dubbed McGuire as the saviour for Wigan.

I'm not saying he won't be good for Wigan if we get him nor am I writing him off before he's even started (if he even starts!). I'm just airing my concerns that fan's think he will bring instant success.

If he did sign, I doubt he would bring instant success - an improvement no doubt performance wise, but for us to be successful we need the right squad, which IMO is half the problem we have with the current coach.

If thats the case NL1 here we come

After the last couple of coaches we've had, I doubt any of us are naive enough to believe that instant success is possible. Though in reality I can't speak for anyone other than myself on that.

My problem with Noble is the technical deficiencies the team shows rather than a lack of silverware. And these are things that don't seem to have changed in the last three years. As for the squad, yep, I can see where we need new players, but we're a much stonger, more balanced squad than we were a few years ago. Whether that's down BN or IL is probably a matter of opinion, though IL has many times thrown his weight behind underpinning the side with young, homegrown quality, whereas Nobby's track-record is somewhat different (though not as different as some would insist).

If anyone expects a brand new coach to win a raft of trophies straight away, they're bound to be disappointed. But if we can see a big tactical overhaul in the team, improvements in fitness and conditioning, improved big-match preparation, increased mental strength and motivation, maybe a restoration of the Wigan ethos which Kris Radklinski (for one) says is currently absent, then I'll be much happier.

If a new coach did go on to win trophies, I'm sure Noble would be credited with the ground-work he did, much the way those 'who know' credit Colin Clark, Alan McInnes and even Alec Murphy, for the ground-work they did in preparation for Wigan's last glory era.

Thats probably the fairest assessment you have posted about things thus far.

We all have good days and bad days.

That is very true regarding the expectations I would have of a new coach.

I would expect him to get more from this squad as it is but not necessarily assume such improvements you describe would lead to trophies.

However if he did win trophies then the credit would be his alone IMO. Noble gets all the credit for saving us from relegation does he not? All coaches inherit a side and Noble inherited Millwards. So did Millward lay the foundations for the improved performance Noble managed to extract from the side or should the credit for that remain 100% with Noble? It is what you do with a side as coach what counts and Noble deservedly gets credit for what he did with the one he inherited in 2006. So if the new coach gets this side into a state to win trophies then the credit is his IMO.

Dave

Possibly, but I think the climb from bottom-feeding mediocrity (under Millward) to winning the Grand Final (if we do) under the next bloke, would be an epic tale in itself, which no one man could take credit for.

Noble appears to have stabilised us at around the lower end of the play-off mark. We know that's not good enough, but it was an immense improvement from the ongoing decline of the previous two seasons. Whoever the new guy is, he'll have a much better springboard to leap from than Noble did, and Noble will have to be credited with that.

As I said, it would be a similarly dramatic turn-around from the relegation-haunted losers of 1980 to the unconquerables of 1987 - done in less time (I hope), but in equally visible stages.