He hasn't, he's flattered to deceive a lot of the time. He's shown flashes of brilliance, but he's not been consistent enough and has far too many flaws in his game to be regarded as a great.

Which is why I'm confused as to why we did not target him in defence last week

Hock ran at Westwood every time from what I saw, didn't even manage an offload.

0 line breaks in 2 games, tells our story of forwards impact.

A legitimate tactic in a bilateral contest surely? Business is business.

Anyhow, some of the bigger guys should be protecting our playmakers from such tactics.

Very bitter... and I guess if we are average, it make you below average.. must try harder!

Anyway back to the thread... If Warrington had a young half back do you not think your boys would have tried to "rough him up" a bit? It is part of the game get over it!

Well said... I had exactly the same thoughts about Edwards, purely because he killed us so often...

What I saw was Tomkins loosing his cool on several occassions rather than Briers winding him up and in the matches I have seen him in , all on tv apart from the hj match and friendly is that he can give as good as he gets.
However I was disappointed with his performance, although behind a beaten pack , he does not look like half the player that Myler is imo.

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Oh what a shame on poor little Sam

It's all part of the game.

totally agree with you

Not really fair to compare Myler and Tomkins. Myler is an out and out 7, the team trust him and play to him letting him control the game from 1st receiver.

At Wigan with Tomkins it's a different matter. When he's on the field he plays as a true old fashioned stand off acting as a second receiver off Tommy or Tim who plays as a 7 in the first receiver spot. Tommy isn't a 7, he doesn't know how to play the position he doesn't know how to use his stand off (Sam) and how to create and organise, hence Sam has no one to play off.

When Sam plays with Tim we see a different Tomkins, Smith, does his best to control the team and throws the ball around from 1st receiver allowing Sam to run off the back of Tim as a running second receiver, just as McGuire does off the back of Burrow for Leeds.

For one reason or another neither Tommy or Tim are good enough to steer the team around the park, this combined with Sam's inexperience of playing 1st grade and playing behind a beaten pack is throwing disadvantage after disadvantage at Sam.

I've mentioned a few times about moving Sam to FB. I have on the signings thread explained my reasons for the move and will do it again if people want to hear my reasons.