I never said that you had or you hadn't?
How do I know you haven't been subjected to subversive tactics used by other Political entities to push you down a particular way of thinking?

It's not strange how people in particular walks of life such as politicians, activists, lecturers etc. have political views, whilst people in Blue collar jobs don't as much - It's quite logical to be honest
What I will say is that if you ask Joe Average, they are more likely to have had different types of Subversion tactics used on them by other methods, platforms.

I also know loads of people in life on my estate who aren't communists, and loads of them haven't worked in 40+ years either
Do I label all of them as something and infer that they're all "Something" ?

"There's a lad on my council Estate voted Brexit - He hates Immigrants, He's never had a Job - He's just a Lazy Right Wing Fascist - So all Brexit voters are the same" - Well it's not true is it?

It's obvious that there are people with certain views on let's say the "Right" side of the argument (And for those tuning in I mean Political right!) who seem to believe that anyone who stands up to the Conservatives, The ERG, Nigel Farage, The Big corporations who don't like paying Taxes, The Greedy, The original "Elite", Donald Trump, Fox news, Brieghtbart etc.etc. are Communists/Marxists immediately.

There's no rational acknowledgement that half of the country want a fairer society and 99.9% of it isn't some subversion plot that we've all been exposed to (I certainly haven't been exposed at University for example because I didn't go to one) manifesting itself as some kind of communist coup.

It worries/saddens me the way the country has turned in the last 10/12 years
I find it abhorrent the Right Wing Rhetoric and the voice it's given to the Armchair Racists (Who continue to grow stronger every day in the current climate)
I find it incredulous that the average man is being told that this government (And it's USA Parallel) that they are the party for you - Whilst they are lining their own pockets and the pockets of the Eton etc. elite - Whilst convincing people that it's the Teachers/lecturers/artists/ and students with their 90k of debt that are the elite!

Lots more

Quote: post "When did I mention Iraq? Are you just putting words into my mouth? Don't try and complicate the argument just because I've shown facts to prove you wrong. You stated that I believed lies if I thought Hillary Clinton made the middle east more volatile, I gave perfect examples from horses mouth herself as to why it was a mistake to get rid of Gaddafi.'" Not from what I understand - Their "Mistake" as they put it was not having a plan for the day after - And Clinton was very late to the party in wanting to intervene - She debated far more than anyone else and was one of the last to give her advice to Obama Anyway https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ion-libya/

Quote: post "When did I mention Iraq? Are you just putting words into my mouth? Don't try and complicate the argument just because I've shown facts to prove you wrong. You stated that I believed lies if I thought Hillary Clinton made the middle east more volatile, I gave perfect examples from horses mouth herself as to why it was a mistake to get rid of Gaddafi.'" Not from what I understand - Their "Mistake" as they put it was not having a plan for the day after - And Clinton was very late to the party in wanting to intervene - She debated far more than anyone else and was one of the last to give her advice to Obama Anyway https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ion-libya/

Laclau & Mouffe?
Gramsci?

Why would blue collar workers have less political views than a lecturer or a professor? A politician I can understand but a lecturer?

My politics are honed as the son of a miner who did +40 years down the mines and fervent Labour Party member and Trade Unionist. I read lots of books on politics guided by my old man on which ones would offer alternative views. Once a month we would buy The Times and The Morning Star and compare where possible just how opposite a story can be covered. Not very scientific but we had some great laughs at some of the totally outrageous views aired by both papers.

I included the example of the guy on our estate as communists and indeed fascists are generally lazy. You are correct lots of people are lazy but communists and fascists are just more consistent at it. Great at dismantling almost incapable of constructing. Two cheeks of the same arrishole.
Another example of a lazy communist is Ash Sarker. Literally a communist but a member of the Labour Party.Too lazy or maybe not smart enough to grow TCP.

If lecturers and professors are the high moral holders why don't they look to reduce courses from 3 to 2 years and save students £30k? A bit of unpaid overtime and some weekend workings would go a long way in achieving that Im sure in many degrees.

Who are The Greedy? Would they be Bankers? CEOs? Sportsmen earning over £1m a week? Politicians of all parties cheating on their expenses.

I'm for fighting the class war with you but not with identity politics. For example Im fine with higher taxes and major fines or even prison for companies or individuals who defraud the HMRC.

So the last 10 or 12 years have been bad I suppose I should long for the good old days of the banking crash where governments allowed banks to virtually do whatever they wanted to do and we invaded Iraq?
No government that has ever existed has always been right and can always fix everything be it blue or red.

You fancy it??

Bit of a long shot i know but does anyone know where Saddam Hussein kept all his cd’s?

In a rack.

Will I get paid more than I do on benefits?

If you are found out to be a member or supporter of a left wing party extremist party or even been a shop steward, employers will know about it as they are informed on black lists provided by right wing organisations who are anti trade union.

I know people who has not worked for years after being involved in the big printing dispute involving newspapers owned by the like of Rupert Murdoch and Eddie Shah and also men who were involved in the NUM led 1984 Miners Strike.

The irony is that the Government has ended up paying them in the form of State Benefits!

Lyrics from 'Land of hope and glory' and 'Rule Brittania' banned from the proms because of Black Lives Matter. Anyone still think this hasn't gone too far?

FFS, this was the most obviously fake story. Please think for just a moment rather than just believing everything you read on Facebook/Daily Mail/Sun.

Nust be true
A "Source" told them

Thanks for that. I am not a sheep, i am quite intelligent and very capable of making my own mind up. I don't do facebook and i don't read the papers, especially the Sun. I wouldn't wipe my aris on that scummy piece of paper if it was a choice of that or ring sting all day.

It has been on the national news all morning. I can see them doing a massive U-turn though because it's just ridiculous.

So when they come out and say they aren't doing it (because they never were) they'll be accused of doing a u-turn.