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| Maybe I’m just getting more chilled or maybe it’s because I’ve got far more important things to worry about in life.
Yeah, it was a poor performance but it still resulted in a win. By a long way we are not favourites for anything but on our day I still think we can beat anyone. The effort and commitment was there & we certainly won’t win anything without that.
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| Quote: Zig "
If French is a 6 then we have major problems. The next time he dummies and doesn’t take on the line I would drop him, King was getting some hospital passes. Why our coaches continue to put Smith at first receiver all the time and run the same plays is beyond me. We were lucky to get away with that tonight against a very average Hull side.'"
The Smith at first receiver is one I have mentioned a few times on here - it puts so much pressure on him to organise/start everything that it effects his game and means he cannot be anywhere near as creative and often gets hammered. The lack of a proper 6 kills us sometimes and this is one area where it does - a decent 6 could go in at first receiver and take some of the pressure off Smith. The French at 6 is ok in open games but in tight games with little space his lack of knowing how to play 6 is obvious and causes as many issues as it solves.
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| Peet obviously knows more about us than coaching a professional side so surely he can see that French at 6 is completely disjointing the team and completely nullifying his skill set. You have to wonder if French's contract negotiations went along the lines of "Sign this Bevan, we will give you more money, if an NRL side comes in we will let you go and don't worry, we will get you off the wing and into the halves where you want to be"
I am sure i read somewhere he was dropped at Parramatta because he didn't want to play on the wing. Somebody needs to tell him just how good a winger he is. I was ranking him up there with Offiah last year, he was THAT good. Big decisions need to be made. No way we win anything with French at 6, he is a strike player who is being stunted and there is no flow to any attack, aside from that, French keeps trying these flick passes that 8 times out of 10 hit the deck or go in touch. He is clearly uncomfortable there.
The question then becomes, where does he go? Who gets dropped? That is why Peet is paid the bucks though, we can save this season (Sounds stupid with us being in 2nd) but some big calls need to be made.
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| Is there not something of an overreaction going on to a win in poor conditions? It was the first game where French could be said to have regressed in a game where virtually everyone was poor. Every game previous has been a better than linear improvement. I'm not sure where this is coming from. We created the opportunities. We just didn't finish them. Had we finished the clear cut chances we had we would have won by 20+ points! Miski tripping over his own feet, for example, is not French's fault. Neither is all the dropped ball or the sheer incompetence from the referee.
The bottom line is, handling aside, we were by far the better team. Hull rarely made it out of their own half. We win in atrocious conditions whilst not playing well. We move on.
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| Quote: NSW "Thought Byrne was good after his weeks off. Ran the ball in hard and was knocking people over.
He needs to be massive for us going forward.'"
That was his best performance for months.
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| Quote: Zig "That was his best performance for months.'"
Played well and ran hard, was better than their highly rated props
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| Just watching Leigh/Catalans. At least goal kicking is taken care of next season.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Is there not something of an overreaction going on to a win in poor conditions? It was the first game where French could be said to have regressed in a game where virtually everyone was poor. Every game previous has been a better than linear improvement. I'm not sure where this is coming from. We created the opportunities. We just didn't finish them. Had we finished the clear cut chances we had we would have won by 20+ points! Miski tripping over his own feet, for example, is not French's fault. Neither is all the dropped ball or the sheer incompetence from the referee.
The bottom line is, handling aside, we were by far the better team. Hull rarely made it out of their own half. We win in atrocious conditions whilst not playing well. We move on.'"
Agree
A couple of extra points
I mean it's not like we were missing our best 3 props
Conditions were atrocious
This Hull team butchered Saints 6 weeks or so ago
We need to solve the 6 problem and I fear its too late to change French and go with someone else due to time (it's become obvious Cust isn't going to force his way back in, an injury to one of the wingers though coukd force his hand so as a positive its good that we have options if we need them), French in the wing gives usnso much more threat than Miski for all his yards and effort. I'm not sayingnthe current set up is bad or Miski is poor, he's not he's playing well, but if we play him he offers very little threat from over 20/25mtrs out
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| If results go by current form until the end of season then it’s likely we will either finish 3rd or possibly 2nd.
I’m assuming Catalan will finish 1st and Saints will finish 2nd.
To win the GF we would have to beat Saints away and then Catalan in the final in consecutive weeks. I don’t think that we have it in us at the moment to do that. We are consistently inconsistent. The one consistent is poor starts to a game.
We just have to move French from HB. It just isn’t working. Not sure what Peet will do but if he doesn’t change things then a repeat performance of the Wakey away could well happen again and very few supporters would be surprised if it did.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Is there not something of an overreaction going on to a win in poor conditions? '" ]
If it was a one off then yes, but it isn't. We've underperformed too many times for it to be brushed under the carpet as one of those games, it's yet another one of those games.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "If results go by current form until the end of season then it’s likely we will either finish 3rd or possibly 2nd.
I’m assuming Catalan will finish 1st and Saints will finish 2nd.
To win the GF we would have to beat Saints away and then Catalan in the final in consecutive weeks. I don’t think that we have it in us at the moment to do that. We are consistently inconsistent. The one consistent is poor starts to a game.
We just have to move French from HB. It just isn’t working. Not sure what Peet will do but if he doesn’t change things then a repeat performance of the Wakey away could well happen again and very few supporters would be surprised if it did.'"
My concern is Peet won't move French from the halves because if he did it would be an admittance that he was wrong to put him there in the first place.
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| We are desperate for a quality 6, we had enough field position to win the Hull game comfortably. It is our Achilles heel.
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| Quote: ChrisA "If it was a one off then yes, but it isn't. We've underperformed too many times for it to be brushed under the carpet as one of those games, it's yet another one of those games.'"
I understand what you're saying but other poor performances were not uniquely with French at 6. The point I'm making is that in all previous weeks he's made strong progress and because we had one poor performance in atrocious conditions when nobody played particularly well, it's all because French is at 6. We've won the majority of games when he's played there.
It's interesting that there's been, quite rightly, some good things said about Jake Clifford on these boards over the weeks yet even though he was busy being largely ineffective and kicking out on the full etc on Friday, no one is suggesting Hull should move him as "it isn't working". I bet Clifford would love the win ratio French currently has.
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| Quote: MadDogg "My concern is Peet won't move French from the halves because if he did it would be an admittance that he was wrong to put him there in the first place.'"
I’d like to think that Peet is bigger than that.
Basically we are playing a “project” player at 6 in the hope that he will eventually click. It’s verging on the absurd and wasting a wonderful talent. You can’t learn how to be a HB in half a season.
As I’ve said not sure what Peet will do. I thought Hampshire was the real deal a few years ago but he seems to have regressed over the years and unless he has some sort of resurgence he appears to be very much a squad player who will only get a game at HB in an emergency. It’s a pity young Farrimond isn’t a couple of years older.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I’d like to think that Peet is bigger than that.
Basically we are playing a “project” player at 6 in the hope that he will eventually click. It’s verging on the absurd and wasting a wonderful talent. You can’t learn how to be a HB in half a season.
As I’ve said not sure what Peet will do. I thought Hampshire was the real deal a few years ago but he seems to have regressed over the years and unless he has some sort of resurgence he appears to be very much a squad player who will only get a game at HB in an emergency. It’s a pity young Farrimond isn’t a couple of years older.'"
Spot on with Farrimond, he looks a star of the future.
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