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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Well after that BS i doubt your RU coached side was very good. If you weren't teaching your forwards the technical aspects of both set pieces as well as working at the break down then you must have seen some heavy scores against you.
Don't understand how anyone who claims to have 'coached' a side can say the complexities of the forward game is nonsense. I guess props and hookers just lean against each other and ball goes in the 2nd row right? What about body position when challenging for the ball on the floor? Do the line outs just work themselves out? What you have just spouted is the equivalent of saying RL is just 6 tackles and a kick with no technicality of controlling the ruck etc.
Doesn't sound like you are speaking from knowledge to me!'"
He was talking about technical aspects in comparison to League. He didn't say there were no technical aspects to Union, just they're different from League's technical aspects.
As someone who has played and coached both League & Union, it seems to me the only person talking BS would be the one who doesn't understand the technical aspects present in League. |
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Well after that BS i doubt your RU coached side was very good. If you weren't teaching your forwards the technical aspects of both set pieces as well as working at the break down then you must have seen some heavy scores against you.
Don't understand how anyone who claims to have 'coached' a side can say the complexities of the forward game is nonsense. I guess props and hookers just lean against each other and ball goes in the 2nd row right? What about body position when challenging for the ball on the floor? Do the line outs just work themselves out? What you have just spouted is the equivalent of saying RL is just 6 tackles and a kick with no technicality of controlling the ruck etc.
Doesn't sound like you are speaking from knowledge to me!'"
That's the issue with the game, too much focus on these aspects instead of focusing on playing rugby. They run the ball in already hitting the ground, don't look to break the line. Too much emphasis on territory instead of possession. Like I said before 40% of the game the ball in out of play.
It's like watching 5 day cricket, a lot if effort but nothing really happens |
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| Quote: Pieman "Like I said before 40% of the game the ball out of play. '"
That's something to be thankful for I suppose |
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "One of the reasons RU is the way is it is, is that it's got the "establishment" behind it. It came about (urban myth or not) in a public school in Rugby, is promoted above the "thuggish" soccer in the majority of existing public schools that coincidentally provide most of the movers & shakers in the current government & blue-chip companies in the land (if not the Commonwealth).
If anyone bothered to watch the 7s last weekend in Glasgow, you'd realise that they've got a very addictive format there that cannot fail to enthuse kids & will often lead to further interest in the 15s game. RL 9s was "demonstrated" before the games actually kicked off, but has anyone on here actually read or seen anything about it since?
Premiership RU is dire unless you subscribe to the "chess on grass" theory, in which case good luck to you. However, some of the games in the Celtic leagues (BBC2 Wales/Scotland/NI on a Friday night in the winter for anyone with FreeSat - I assume it's available on Sly too) are quite entertaining as they tend to run the ball instead of playing ping-pong & hoofing it up the field every five seconds.
The image of RL is still that of a bunch of fat blokes running around in a muddy field watched by two blokes in flat caps with a whippet or a ferret on a piece of string. I have this argument every time I have to visit any of our offices in London or (for my sins) Milton Keynes. The bigoted attitude of RU stalwarts who've never bothered to watch a league game is mind-boggling & akin to arguing that God doesn't exist with a Jehovah's Witness.
It's not that League is any better a game than Union or vice-versa
I saw a little of it - the Welsh game (where Australia scored 2 tries literally minutes after the clock had hit 0) and the England game.
It's a low quality sport imo - Charnley and Burgess would score tries for fun in that format. There's so much space it's just about getting it wide to the quick man.
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| Quote: Him "He was talking about technical aspects in comparison to League. He didn't say there were no technical aspects to Union, just they're different from League's technical aspects. '"
Exactly. The various aspects of forward play in junior RU are introduced gradually up until junior colts level when by then all aspects of it are in the game such as the ludicrous lifting that the line out.
Did my son's team have to learn and practice this? Of course. Is it some mysterious sporting art form that elevates RU above League. Of course not.
Did the fact the hooker and the team have make up codes for throw-ins and practice that mean RU is some sort of thinking man's game. Not in my book.
There is so much BS spouted about RU's "technical aspects" it is untrue. They are just things to learn and most, in my opinion, do not add to the spectacle of the game. |
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: DaveO "Exactly. The various aspects of forward play in junior RU are introduced gradually up until junior colts level when by then all aspects of it are in the game such as the ludicrous lifting that the line out.
Did my son's team have to learn and practice this? Of course. Is it some mysterious sporting art form that elevates RU above League. Of course not.
Did the fact the hooker and the team have make up codes for throw-ins and practice that mean RU is some sort of thinking man's game. Not in my book.
There is so much BS spouted about RU's "technical aspects" it is untrue. They are just things to learn and most, in my opinion, do not add to the spectacle of the game.'"
Excellent post DaveO... |
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| Quote: lemonhead "Just got back from Carfest at Oulton Park, Cheshire where I saw the difference between RL & RFU yet again. In amongst the food stalls, cars and music was a three stand promotional display containing 2 kids events plus a stall selling FRU merchandised all professionally presented and organised. Did we see a similar display promoting RL - NO! RFU This, plus the over complicated structure, is another reason why RL will be dead on its knees in 10years, completely overshadowed by RU & NRL. Something must be done now to force the existing management out and replaced by professional business people with strategic vision.'"
Rugby League will not be "dead on it's knees in ten years" far from it. There are more kids playing the game than ever before. Go round the local pitches (as I do watching my great grandsons) on a Sunday morning and you will find it thriving as never before. What's more it is not just in the traditional RL heartlands that the game is thriving. Places like Coventry and Gloucester, strong RU areas are now sporting good class RL activity. You are far too pessimistic and wrong about our game. |
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We live in an electronic age. Every time I turn on the computer I am bombarded with adverts, including a particularly persistent garden shed firm, who must have my details from somewhere. Where are the blanket RL ads? perhaps targeted at thosewho already have all the Russian mail order brides that they need.
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[quote="roger daly":1a7cbd66]Oh dear, I believe you would be classed as s[sic] typical Wigan fan[/quote:1a7cbd66]
[quote="wrencat1873":1a7cbd66]It's the mighty Wigan, they can do whatever they want.[/quote:1a7cbd66]
[quote="Big lads mate":1a7cbd66]you arrogant pot prick[/quote:1a7cbd66]
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| Quote: Levrier "We live in an electronic age. Every time I turn on the computer I am bombarded with adverts, including a particularly persistent garden shed firm, who must have my details from somewhere. Where are the blanket RL ads? perhaps targeted at thosewho already have all the Russian mail order brides that they need.'"
Have you bought a shed or a Russian bride? |
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Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
Big Steve wrote:
The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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This has taken a surreal turn.....
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[b:1wlcmlhe][color=#800000:1wlcmlhe]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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| Quote: Suzy Banyon "Have you bought a shed or a Russian bride?'"
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| Quote: Suzy Banyon "Have you bought a shed or a Russian bride?'"
Yes, but as there were no screws included it had to go back. |
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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.'
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| Quote: Levrier "Yes, but as there were no screws included it had to go back.'"
Nobody wants a Russian bride without the screws included. You were right to get rid  |
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[color=#FF0000:18ol665r]A Pie is for life, not just a Wembley Final[/color:18ol665r]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_61641.png |
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damn...I clicked on the wrong box and got a Russian shed
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| Quote: pie.warrior "damn...I clicked on the wrong box and got a Russian shed'"
Beware, if you get one of those it will annex the back of your garden. |
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