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| Quote: DaveO "Well the players union would agree with you (and so do I) but I don't think you can assume being banned was the only thing that led to this tragic event.
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True, there do seem to be other mitigating circumstances. My only point is a player who openly admits to be depressed in the first place thus taking drugs should be looked after and rehabilitated to avoid a player spiralling further into depression due to other factors and taking their own life.
Of course it will not be a full proof system and some players might continue to do drugs and others may, god forbid, follow a similar route as Terry but hopefully more can and will be done to make sure nobody has to fall into a greater state of depression.
Quote: DaveO "IMO this is the wrong decision and it is still not too late to turn it into a minute applause.
What has happened puts Rugby League (and sport in general) into perspective. However on a Rugby level he was detested by Saints fans and the reasons for this are well documented.
A minutes silence after some 'fans' will have been drinking for 5/6 hrs is asking for trouble and will taint RL's family image. Its a sorry state of affairs but its also reality.'"
If this was a former St. Helens star with a disliked reputation in the Wigan borough who died in similar circumstances I would be silent even tanked up because I would never wish this on anyone.
If we have to pussyfoot around Neanderthals then there is no point doing anything. If a minutes silence can be observed impeccably by United and City I'm sure the same can between Wigan and Saints.
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| ITS OFFICAL THERE WILL BE A 1 MINS SILENCE AT GF
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Renegade "True, there do seem to be other mitigating circumstances. My only point is a player who openly admits to be depressed in the first place thus taking drugs should be looked after and rehabilitated to avoid a player spiralling further into depression due to other factors and taking their own life.
Of course it will not be a full proof system and some players might continue to do drugs and others may, god forbid, follow a similar route as Terry but hopefully more can and will be done to make sure nobody has to fall into a greater state of depression.
If this was a former St. Helens star with a disliked reputation in the Wigan borough who died in similar circumstances I would be silent even tanked up because I would never wish this on anyone.
If we have to pussyfoot around Neanderthals then there is no point doing anything. If a minutes silence can be observed impeccably by United and City I'm sure the same can between Wigan and Saints.'"
If you are talking in referance to the Munich 50 years game then that is different. That disaster had an impact on both clubs.
I am pretty sure some stupid fans will make some noise.
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| Quote: Renegade "
If this was a former St. Helens star with a disliked reputation in the Wigan borough who died in similar circumstances I would be silent even tanked up because I would never wish this on anyone.
If we have to pussyfoot around Neanderthals then there is no point doing anything. If a minutes silence can be observed impeccably by United and City I'm sure the same can between Wigan and Saints.'"
And most decent fans will be silent. But finals always bring out the idiots from all clubs and it is the actions of those idiots that I worry about, the people who aren't necessarily as passionate about the game as most of us and who won't see past the "cheat" or "thug" labels rather than remembering the person.
Personally I have never understood why, irrespective of personal feelings towards the person, anyone would struggle to stand in silence for 60 seconds - its not a big ask and the vast majority of people will manage it on Saturday.
Hopefully peoples worries are wrong and there are no idiots try to ruin it.
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| It also mite help that you are unable to drink at your seat
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| Terry Newton did cheat but he was still a family man who made a mistake and paid for it with his life in the end. Two young girls no longer have a dad and if people cant just keep quiet for 1 minute then it just shows what a shocking community we live in.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "If you are talking in referance to the Munich 50 years game then that is different. That disaster had an impact on both clubs.
I am pretty sure some stupid fans will make some noise.'"
It will have had absolutely no bearing on the vast majority of the supporters who were in the ground at the time as I doubt many younger supporters will have seen those players or remember them, they are simply names. Most people in rugby league will have seen Terry Newton play and as we are regarded as a 'community' based sport it should be held impeccably.
One or two morons may try to spoil it but in a capacity Old Trafford they'd be very brave or very stupid to try.
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| anyone disrespecting a minutes silence should be ejected from the ground IMO. Its not actually that hard to do.....all that needs to happen is that the decent fans should point at the people making the noise and the stewards should eject them.
Whoever the person the silence is for, anyone making noise in a minutes silence is scum and deserves to be treated as such!
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| I don't think an applause is appropriate though. Not under the circumstances.
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| i have already heard a saints fan openly admit that they will shout, cheer, talk and generally make noise throughout the silence.
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| I think the silence will be observed very well. I think there will then be the roar for your team that comes at the end of a silence. I then think there will be an attempt at Saints usual chant about Terry involving the words is, Terry, w***er, a , Newton. And I also think that somewhere, somehow, Terry will have a wry smile on his face knowing that even though he has passed on, he is still able to wind up the opposition.
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| Look the odd moron may shout out but that doesn't taint the majority of fans who will observe it
Put it the other way why should a few morons stop the majority showing their respect were not doing it to look good on tv either so i dont really care about image on tv
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| Quote: Odemwingie "If you are talking in referance to the Munich 50 years game then that is different. That disaster had an impact on both clubs.
I am pretty sure some stupid fans will make some noise.'"
I was at the 40th Munich anniversary game when Bolton played Man Utd and that too was observed impeccably (regrettably, I'd say Bolton fans have five times the 'minority' that would abuse such situations).
I think everyone should show a little more faith in humanity and more specifically the rugby league community - it's times like these that our sport shows it's true strength and spirit, and I have no doubt that, for sixty seconds, 76,000 people at Old Trafford and however many thousands watching on TV will pause and silently think of this tragic loss, before the players of each side show the ultimate tribute and come up with a cracker of a game in Terry's memory.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "If you are talking in referance to the Munich 50 years game then that is different. That disaster had an impact on both clubs.'"
Don't be daft. I'm a City supporter but if you think that cuts any ice then you'd be severely mistaken. The reason it was impeccably observed was not because City fans felt affected by it but because it was common decency. If such nuggets can display such decency then I'd expect the same from everyone on Saturday.
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