Who are you reffering to may I ask? I have searched through this thread and dont seem to be able to find any posts with anyone aiming abuse or childish name calling at anyone? I apologise is the word "tools" intimidated anyone, but its become apparent that certain people on this board seem to love picking out negatives and having a pop at a group that has done far more good than bad for the club. Each to there own anyway, nobody has been "forced" to get involved in anything.

No one has suggested calling someone a tool is intimidating, however I do find it childish to call it a number of people just because they have expressed a view you don't agree with. What we've also seen is the view expressed that some people are having a go simply because they are upset at the popularity of the Brigantes (I'm still trying to figure that one out) and that some are having a go because they've had run-in in the past on here with members of the Brigantes, although that probably says more about the person making that bizarre comment than those it was an accusation against.

As has been pointed out numerous times most people who have said anything you might regard as negative have stated they like what the group has done and is doing so why it is being portrayed as a whingeathon I don't know. It looks as though some people are being a little too sensitive given the over-reaction seen in this thread to certain opinions and views that aren't 100% positive.

I fully understand that people are entitled to an opinion and 90% of people who have given contructive critisism have been listened to and valued. However as I said, there seems to be a minority that cant wait to put the Brigantes down and have a go. I dont like how the group is being portrayed as seperate to other Wigan fans, that isn't what the group is trying to do.

I think most people who post or read this forum on a regular basis know who the "moaners" are, as they pretty much do it on every thread they contribute to and therefore I expect most people to take their views with a pinch of salt on most if not all subjects. Unfortunately some of the responses don't read like that distinction has always been made.

Cracking post

Agreed. I was actually finding it amusing the thread till the sick posting of the Bradford fires, where some of the people on these boards myself included had family and friends involved.


Regarding the group the improving of the atmosphere has got to be a positive. But don't like the name ultra and the whole sticker posting thing. It will lead to trouble at grounds. All teams have a few idiots waiting for an excuse and plastering their ground with stickers will be the excuse they need

Probably the best and most sensible post on this thread.

haha ..... good one

How does the kings of rugby song go? It's a great tune but it sounds like you're singing 'we're Wigan rugby and we're never gonna score'

We are the boys, still at the top
The kings of rugby and we're never gonna stop
We are Wigan (We are Wigan)
RLFC (RLFC)
And we will follow you wherever you may be

Thanks, will join in at Bradford

Well, I wasn't moaning so much as identifying areas where we needed to improve, so very glad that they were very much improved.

LOVE the evolution flags. Couldn't see them from where I was sat, forgot my glasses but just saw a picture on the Wigan V Leeds thread.

Thanks, hours and hours of painting went into them, Neil Buchanan eat your heart out.

What are the evolution flags? Don't think I've seen them.