Brian Carney, Sky, BLM, Racism, Marxism, Communism, Kneeling

Quote: Jukesays "Nowhere have I "TOLD" people to not watch or read anything, I've been pointed to 2 different links by posters and took the time to read an watch them both.

I'm saying to the poster who reliably informs me that George Floyd died of heart failure and not at the hands of the policeman have a red of this.
A link to the scientific American, and an article where they were disgusted at the gas lighting of George Floyd's autopsy (where 2 autopsies were released).
The first one was critically assessed by the scientific American and it explains why, deflection techniques, etc to draw a smokescreen in front of what was the official reason.
I agree on one thing, time will tell

But the response I got from the poster was, "No, cant say i have, not interested"

So I'm supposed to stand by, read and accept what people like that are saying when they cant be bothered even reading a counter argument or other facts.

As for education, my point was that Ghost99 had been challenged on his education, and basically being told (and your backing it up somewhat with your post above) that anyone who has been to university has been subjected to the Subversion that Post brought to the table, and thus anyone who's been to university shouldnt be listened to because somehow theyre brainwashed/communist/marxists.

Maybe we should just qualify if that applies to all students of higher education, you know like the ones running the current government? The ones who want to keep higher education to themselves
You know, the ones who been employing their own subversion for the last decade under the disguise of Austerity/Brexit and convincing (brainwashing) Workington man that it's all Labours fault, or migrants fault, or anyone else who stands in their way of doing exactly what your accusing the left of doing (by way of the use of the words communist/marxist) which is they're conning the people into believing they're getting what they want, when in reality all they're doing is telling them what they want to hear whilst guess what, doing what's best for them (and I was going to add elite there, but for some strange reason the elite have convinced everyone that the elite arent the top 1%, but anyone who rises to a position above their station)
Now whether each individual believes either side of that argument is up to them, what I can tell you is I speak to enough people who tell me they arent interested in politics, yet want to pick up their knowledge from FB or Twitter etc andbwhen challenged on it dont want to get into a discussion about facts, because they cnat be bothered. I.e. anything more than 3 word slogans is too deep of a debate.

You then ask

"If you are for diversity why no diversity on education? Who was the last Prime Minister not to go to university?
There are 650 MPs how many haven’t been to university?
How many tv presenters unless they are football pundits haven’t been to university?
How many senior civil servants haven’t been to university?

What about diversity of age? I’d love to know how people under the age of day 21 work for the bbc
What about diversity of geography? How many people from say the North East work for National tv?
What about diversity of religion?"

Where or when have I ever said there shouldnt be diversity in any of those areas?
Why are you putting thise words in my mouth?
But your inference here is that it is some kind of plot that all university students are trying to shape their will onto the world, well of course they are, just like the hundreds of thousands of other university graduates each year that you just seem to want ot ignore, you know, judges, lawyers, agricultural studies, dentists, doctors etc.
Are they all involved in some.kind of subversion plot? Or are they brainwashed as well?

As I've said before, thebpeole have voted for their government, for Brexit, they got their wish
I just am amazed that when it doesnt turn out like they were told it would they try and blame the other side and tell everyone it was their fault, and some fall for it.'"

How do you know that I haven't been university? I may have formed my opinions whilst at university based on my experiences.
I don't think that I have ever said that every person who has gone to university is brainwashed or that they ALL involved in a subversive plot?
I said that the more people that go through university the more will be subjected to subversion.
Do you not acknowledge the goals of Gramsci and Laclau + Mouffe tacitly sought to use universities in their use of identity politics in dismantling the capitalist system?
Can't people who didn't go university also shape their will onto the world? I am merely stating that across major areas of our society is exclusively owned by ex university students some as you state e.g. medical based absolutely need formal education based learning but why does it apply to MPs, TV presenters, journalists? Michael Parkinson was a pretty good journalist and broadcaster he had no formal education I believe after his O levels.

I am using education as a sledgehammer to highlight how absurd identity politics are.I did not state that you didn't agree with diversity of education etc I was merely trying to establish if did or didn't agree that diversity is more than sex, gender and race.
Why did Lacalu & Mouffe only choose sex, gender and race for diversity? I suspect they thought these groups would be more useful than groups of say religion or age in dismantling capitalism. They didn't give a shoite about diversity it was a means to an end.

I've met professors, lecturers, students, activists and a politician who are communists but I've yet to meet a plumber, brickie, plasterer or a sparkie who is a communist. Funny that.
When I grew up on our estate there was one guy who was a communist. He never worked in the 40 odd years that I know him. Funny that.

On Brexit by the way I agree with you