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| Quote: NSW "It’s funny none of them things have been an issue when he’s been in a highly professional environment.
Same with Cooper.'"
Pushing on an open door with me. Our club is a joke.
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| As a Wire fan i am pleased for the lad.
Obviously ,there were some issues between Mr Powell & the players for us to lose so many of our team over the last couple of years. I just hope his heart doesn't stay in Wigan though otherwise it could be a bad move to bring him back if he doesn't want to be at Warrington. Have there been any moves to keep him at Wigan ?
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| Quote: NSW "It’s funny none of them things have been an issue when he’s been in a highly professional environment.
Same with Cooper.'"
Yes,funny how he was a bad influence at a club with a great record of wins and he comes to little old Wigan with their problems and everyone loves his attitude and his desire to succeed.
Just cant figure that one out,same goes for Cooper (same club same bad attitude)
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| Quote: Jukesays "Ha !
Seeing as he only counts 50k on your salary cap money isn't the issue for Warrington either?
The only problem with the situation is Warrington
They offered the contract, they employed Darryl Powell, they allowed him to go on loan to Huddersfield, they paid the difference, they allowed him to go to Wigan and paid the difference (whilst indulging Daryll Powell with his Matatuia/Minikin etc Dudson,Maguire, Kasiano signings)
Maybe the club needs to look inward at its behaviour, culture, management set up etc
And the fans need to be asking why they aren't happy to see an International, Grand Final winning centre who gives his all in very game in line with his abilities I.e. Hard working etc. Back at the club, but we're doing cartwheels over signing a crocked inglis or a terrible/average replacements like Matautia or Minikin
Wonder how Briers felt he was treated, Mike Cooper, Josh Charnley, the list goes on and on
What I will say is, he's been a pleasure to have play for us and actually spoke to 2 of Wigans coaches about him 6 weeks ago and they said his attitude (and Wardles) has been outstanding since the day they walked in
Wonder what it is about 6 x time Grand Final Wigan that suddenly gets the best out of players?
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Is he the first Warrington player to win championship since 55?'"
Good stuff. I hope you find the money to keep him (or he accepts less money to stay). See what he values the most in any case.
I agree our club definitely needs to look at our behaviour, culture, management set up etc
For the avoidance of doubt we were not "doing cartwheels" about signing a crocked inglis or a terrible/average replacements (sic) like Matautia or Minikin - far from it.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Good stuff. I hope you find the money to keep him (or he accepts less money to stay). See what he values the most in any case.
I agree our club definitely needs to look at our behaviour, culture, management set up etc
For the avoidance of doubt we were not "doing cartwheels" about signing a crocked inglis or a terrible/average replacements (sic) like Matautia or Minikin - far from it.'"
They all play for the money!
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| I don't understand what all the animation is about on this subject.
Yes - Warrington is a basket case.
Yes - you are all happy you won the GF
Yes - you are big fans of Toby King
I hope you keep your wonder centre and take him off our books. He's not even the best centre in your team
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| Quote: MattyB "I love the fact that our title winning success this season has been funded (in part) by Wire. let's hope you have the wealth to pay the wonder centre's wages.
Again, you have won the GF, won the LLS and have bags of money. Please sign him for 2024.
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| Quote: Wires71 "That's what we do best
According to Lenegan we had agreed for next season it was only the cap change why Wire changed their minds. Something while he said it was their right to do he didn't seem happy with how it was done as he then went on to say quite a bit of what he thought about how you was being managed.
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| Quote: That Mon "According to Lenegan we had agreed for next season it was only the cap change why Wire changed their minds. Something while he said it was their right to do he didn't seem happy with how it was done as he then went on to say quite a bit of what he thought about how you was being managed.'"
I'm quite sure. We employ a woefully out of depth clown as a CEO. The same clown gave TK the ridiculous contract in the first place.
To help mitigate the effect of the clown we scoured the earth for an international class Director of Rugby. We searched both hemispheres looking for the strategic rugby brain with great contacts in UK, Aus and NZ. The sort of RL visionary who could build a legacy. Luckily for us we found he was already working in our youth set up - we proudly present Gary Chambers! And people wonder why we are mediocre.
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| Quote: Wires71 "I'm quite sure. We employ a woefully out of depth clown as a CEO. The same clown gave TK the ridiculous contract in the first place.'"
Why have you never got rid of the clown. Always baffles me. DP always looked like an abrasive character who looking from the outside in, didn’t have much of a culture building other than scowl at players when they played e then go out on the lash if they won. Appointing Burgess is a strange one, i think he’s a great player and might have the attitude (if it starts to go wrong) of being royally peed off and butt heads with players and they aren’t doing what he could do. Honestly you wouldn’t go far wrong sticking with the chap you had. Give him a go bringing the youth through and see what happens.
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| I think Burgess will be good for them, he's got that force of character and will to maybe start some changes off there. He's not stupid, he'll know that they are rotten to the core and I'm sure he'll have guarantees in place about backing him when tough decisions need to be made.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "I think Burgess will be good for them, he's got that force of character and will to maybe start some changes off there. He's not stupid, he'll know that they are rotten to the core and I'm sure he'll have guarantees in place about backing him when tough decisions need to be made.'"
I assume that so did DP...
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""I assume that so did DP...'"
Possibly. DP isn't Burgess however.
Burgess knows what it takes to be successful, DP has never really been a success. If Burgess implements even a quarter of what he learnt from Madge or Bennett, they'll have something light years ahead of what DP offered.
As a starter I think we'll see a team with better conditioning and far more committed. If not, then those players will be gone.
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