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Quote: Jukesays "Whether he was any good or not ( My personal opinion is he was better than people are saying in general) has nothing to do with any allegations and what is acceptable for someone to be subjected to.
Whatever money he was on Ditto - It's no excuse that some of your money or my money has paid for his wages - Racism or abuse is not acceptable
The fans may have right to comment - They don't have right to be Abusive etc.

Now saying all of that

I'd be interested to know if Mrs FPN and her husband lodged any complaints to the relevant authorities at the time or intend on doing so in the future and what Evidence they present to support this.
Seems interesting given that he had been trying to get out of his contract for 12 months but didn't want to give up any losses he would incur if he resigned with someone for less down under.

Finally
Everyone should be careful what they say here & more Importantly Wigan RLFC need to respond in some way,
Whether that is by announcing they will be holding a full investigation and asking Mrs FPN & Her husband to present their evidence/statements
Or
If they already know what lies behind this then issuing a Full statement ASAP.'"


agree Andy, I suspect the post was removed as she may have no evidence thus end up in hot water without it.

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Quote: Pieman "agree Andy, I suspect the post was removed as she may have no evidence thus end up in hot water without it.'"


She hasn't removed it, it's right here - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhi4p14BM6b ... snuuausala
Quote: Pieman "agree Andy, I suspect the post was removed as she may have no evidence thus end up in hot water without it.'"


She hasn't removed it, it's right here - https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhi4p14BM6b ... snuuausala


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TBH I had to have a go at a complete bellwhiff at Saints recently, for calling Ben Barba a black b**tard, black c***, Muslim b**tard, ISIS b**tard, etc..

The funny part was that he couldn't even look at me while I spoke to him about it and the steward near us did nothing more than ask him to keep it down a bit.

How are we supposed to get this crap out of our game when it is ignored by 99% of people, and the stewarding is so weak as to be non-existant.

As for FPN and his wife - If he received ANY racial abuse from fans that she heard, she should have reported it at the time, and if he was ever discriminated against by the club, she should submit any/all evidence to the RFL.

Otherwise, if the only abuse she heard was for his performances - which were mostly lazy-bordering-on-sh*te - She needs to stop whining and toughen up.
If you get paid to do a very public job, then if you are (perceived as) a very public and very expensive flop, you are going to receive a very public tongue-lashing about it.

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Quote: Pie Eyed "TBH I had to have a go at a complete bellwhiff at Saints recently, for calling Ben Barba a black b**tard, black c***, Muslim b**tard, ISIS b**tard, etc..

The funny part was that he couldn't even look at me while I spoke to him about it and the steward near us did nothing more than ask him to keep it down a bit.

How are we supposed to get this crap out of our game when it is ignored by 99% of people, and the stewarding is so weak as to be non-existant.

As for FPN and his wife - If he received ANY racial abuse from fans that she heard, she should have reported it at the time, and if he was ever discriminated against by the club, she should submit any/all evidence to the RFL.

Otherwise, if the only abuse she heard was for his performances - which were mostly lazy-bordering-on-sh*te - She needs to stop whining and toughen up.
If you get paid to do a very public job, then if you are (perceived as) a very public and very expensive flop, you are going to receive a very public tongue-lashing about it.'"


Just to confirm there was no allegation of racial abuse from fans in the post. It was worded ‘I’ve seen him racially discriminated by staff and called names due to his appearance’

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Well its either us or Canberra she means, because it can't be the Roosters as he is back there!

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At no point does she say he was racially abused at Wigan or even England. Australia is a terribly racist country though so maybe she’s alluding to treatment he’s received over his career. Only last week Penrith fans aimed racist comments at Gerg Inglais.

It’s obvious they didn’t enjoy it in England and at Wigan and she’d perhaps have been wiser to bite her tongue a little on those comments. You never know what’s waiting around the corner and it could come back to bite her.

Regarding everything else, it would be hard to sit there and hear/read people making disparaging remarks about your spouse. I have an element of pity with her on this.

FPN has had a low point at Wigan and seems to be happier and getting back on track. That is how I read her post anyway.

All in all, a storm in a teacup.

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the girl has form for it, she said the same kind of thing when he signed FOR Wigan about his previous club!

sounds like a right crank to me.

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Her comment is clearly accusing somebody of racism.

‘I’ve seen him racially discriminated by staff & called terrible names due to his appearance.’

It’s highly likely the comments refer to his time at Wigan although she doesn’t say that.

I’m in 100% agreement with Jukesays on this. Regardless of how he played, what he earned etc, there is absolutely no place for racism in 2018. We need to understand that it may not have been raised at the time through fear or because they didn’t feel it was a safe enough environment to do so. We simply don’t know.

What we do know is that she has made a very serious accusation about somebody and I hope the club do come out with some kind of comment to distance itself and refute the allegations.

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I'm not saying Frank-Paul hasn't been racially abused in his life (though the last time I heard racism at Wigan was when it was aimed at Hanley and Gill by visiting fans), but the most obvious problem he had with his last two clubs was that he didn't play well for either of them.

They always say the best form of defence is attack.

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Having read her comments I read it to mean he she says has experienced racial abuse and forced to play with injuries at some point in his career without specifying where.

She then goes on to say she had a terrible experience over here which is fair enough if that’s her opinion however going on to say in a terrible country at a terrible club is a bit off imo.

This country has its flaws like any other but for the most part, compared to many other places it’s not too bad. As for being a terrible club why do so many former players re-sign for us if that’s the case?

Her comments have left me with little doubt that she is the reason he wanted to leave and probably the reason for what is considered to be substandard performances whilst at Wigan.

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Amazed the overrated pudding is getting a gig at the roosters .

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Quote: Towns88 "Amazed the overrated pudding is getting a gig at the roosters .'"


Me too. Be interesting too how he goes in first-grade.

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Pretty sure he started from the bench today v Bulldogs.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "
I’m in 100% agreement with Jukesays on this. Regardless of how he played, what he earned etc, there is absolutely no place for racism in 2018. We need to understand that it may not have been raised at the time through fear or because they didn’t feel it was a safe enough environment to do so. We simply don’t know.'"


I agree with this in particular the bit about why it might not have been raised at the time. It's all very well saying they should have raised the alleged racism but that is easy thing for those who have not been victims to say. It's also a bit of a cop out because it's like making it out it's FPN's own fault he was allegedly racially abused because he didn't report it. There is even a term flor this, it's Victim Blaming. Expecting victims to be the pro active ones and go out of their way to do so is often an excuse for inaction on the part of those who can deal with the issue.

Quote: Bigredwarrior "What we do know is that she has made a very serious accusation about somebody and I hope the club do come out with some kind of comment to distance itself and refute the allegations.'"


They can't just refute them without investigating them first so it's whether the club thinks this is something it needs to look into or not.

As to FPN and him being criticised for his performances I think he did get an unfair amount of stick. I think he was playing as Wane asked him to and he also was an ever present in an injury hit side. Perhaps the club (and all clubs) could be a bit more aware that these days criticism is far more visible due to social media so players and their relatives will see it far more. The negative comments are not just made down the pub in private after a match but are public. Last season Gildarts Dad was on the Facebook A&L group getting upset about comments on his son. This being so if a player is being slagged off for doing what the coach wants (for example) a bit of praise or comment might clue the fans in a bit more. That said all players are going to have stinkers every now and again and if they do, they can't expect people not to comment. If Mrs FPN heard him being slagged off at games he's in good company. Years ago a chap who sat near me spent the entire 80 minutes of every game slagging off Andy Farrell. It's what happens at matches and always has.

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No statement yet, then, I wonder if the club are taking any action on this behind the scenes?

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