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| Quote: MR FRISK "I see Wane as prefared to play Thornley on the left wing spot and id imagine that is where he will be until Pat comes back! personally i think Gelling has been one of the worst wingers ever to wear the top.
When we first signed Gelling SW said something about Gelling being a long term project and that we would work with him to improve his as a player - from that I understood that there would be some patience with him but that when the time came he would get a chance.
I really don' think he has been as bad as what some of his critics make out - yes he has made some mistakes but when I watch him play I see a lot of effort there and a lot of natural ability - it usually takes more than one player to take him down and he is very athletic.
I would like to see him be given another opportunity - particularly at centre. Don't forget that Pat Richards hardly set the world on fire in the centres - in fact many people would of gladly seen him leave the club at that time.
Lets not write off Gellings Wigan career just yet.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You know that we HAVE to have a scapegoat at Wigan, and currently it's Gelling. Thornley [ichasing[/i back on Saturday made Paul Wellens look like Usain Bolt, but got no criticism whatsoever. Had that been Gelling the this board would have been on fire.'"
He got some off Sam.
He give him the rounds of the kitchen and then some when Gower kicked his 40/20. I said at the time if that had been Gelling some of the crowd would have been joining in for sure.
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| Like someone mentioned, ppl have slagged Pat off, then Piggy, then Finch, now Gelling.
Hope it sticks to form, if it follows previous suit in the next 2 to 3 seasons Gelling should be a contender for MoS.
Win.
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| On this occasion I don't agree with Mr Frisk, but do agree with Jon H.
And I agree with those criticising the scapegoating mentality of many Wigan fans. It is the Achilles heel of the greatest set of fans in the game. At times - like the shameful attacks on Lockers some years ago - it reaches outrageous proportions and is worse than embarrassing. The attacks on Gelling are heading in this direction, I'm afraid.
Gelling may never turn out to be a great player, he has a lot to work on, but anyone can see the huge potential he has. If he doesn't fulfil that potential then some of the blame would lie with him, but the Wigan club would also have failed.
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| Quote: Deano G "On this occasion I don't agree with Mr Frisk, but do agree with Jon H.
And I agree with those criticising the scapegoating mentality of many Wigan fans. It is the Achilles heel of the greatest set of fans in the game. At times - like the shameful attacks on Lockers some years ago - it reaches outrageous proportions and is worse than embarrassing. The attacks on Gelling are heading in this direction, I'm afraid.
Gelling may never turn out to be a great player, he has a lot to work on, but anyone can see the huge potential he has. If he doesn't fulfil that potential then some of the blame would lie with him, but the Wigan club would also have failed.'"
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| Let's go for it thenWigan RL Scapegoats - 1985-2012.
2012 - Anthony Gelling.
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| Quote: MattyB "Let's go for it thenWigan RL Scapegoats - 1985-2012.
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| I don't think Mathers was ever a scapegoat just a really really bad player.
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| Quote: MattyB "Let's go for it thenWigan RL Scapegoats - 1985-2012.
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| So it's ok to get all happy flappy and praise the players when they play well, but if you dare mention them when they don't play well you're not loyal and making scapegoats?
There's 2 sides to every coin and people need to quit being so soft, it's sport, they get paid and peopl comment on how they play, good or bad.
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| Quote: ChrisA "So it's ok to get all happy flappy and praise the players when they play well, but if you dare mention them when they don't play well you're not loyal and making scapegoats?
There's 2 sides to every coin and people need to quit being so soft, it's sport, they get paid and peopl comment on how they play, good or bad.'"
Correct.
Gelling is a poor winger - plain and simple. Not necessarily his fault because he isn't a winger by trade & hasn't played to this level before. His enthusiasm in attack with his powerful carries is a step up on Pryce & his attitude coupled with his athletic, if a little raw, frame hints that he may have a long-term future at Wigan in another position.
But I think it's fair to say that his positional sense is very poor, he's too slow to support making a break and he's bombed many chances handed to him on a plate by failing to catch the ball - he can also be a little clumsy at times. All fair criticisms IMO and he'll learn from that.
I hope people don't find my criticisms of Gelling too harsh. And Anthony Gelling if you're reading this I hope I haven't destroyed your confidence the next time you play the game - you are not my scapegoat, I just think you're a poor winger, but you could come good in the future.
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| Quote: ChrisA "I never said we had no choice but to play him, now we have cover he needs to go back to the 20's to carry on his development. I stated my opinion that he isn't ready yet.'"
But what if the cover you speak of is not a Pat clone? I’ve seen comments already saying Thornley is too slow. So do we send him back to learn his trade better too, then whose next? Round and round we’ll go because no one will be just right, no one will be mistake free. They all must learn, and I’ll make you a bet whoever gets a go, and even if you think they are gold-top, there will be plenty slaggers coming out of the woodwork. I’m no better than anyone else and I slag, but I hope I never slag just for slaggings sake. “VIVA CONSTRUCTIVE SLAGGING SOLAMANTE” (note the touch of Spanish there for emphasis)
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| Brady Malam was sh*te. Even the name annoys me.
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