I have heard a whisper that he wants to take part in the RL sprint races to prove people are wrong who say his pace has gone.

If he does take part ,instead of a stop watch to time him they will have to use a Calendar.

WAHAY!

When George outran him, I said to a friend at the match that George was thinking about retiring last year, and is definitely retiring this year because his pace is starting to drop off.

What does that say about Wellens?

He has become a pitiful figure, which is a shame, because we need a strong "hate" figure at Saints, in the way that they have Tomkins.

Just doesn't feel right, feeling sorry for them.

As for the V's - So what? We're not as petty/touchy as certain other fans, so I don't expect to see anything done about it.

"Wellens. What's the score?" - No mate, it's more than 2.

Said a few years ago he should have been moved to centre and they should have worked on a long term replacement.

The top three qualities in a fullback are (not necessarily in order): bravery, game sense and speed. All are essential at SL level. The latter has always been his weakest point but has now become a major issue.

Wellens actually said in the local paper, prior to the Magic Weekend that as a Man City fan he didnt want to upset Eammon McManus or Mike Rush (both Man Utd fans) too much with the bragging rights as he was hoping to negotiate a new contract!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for not having a hate figure at Saints - look no further than LMS. After last night's game, I'll certainly have no trouble with that one!!!

My missus came with me on Sunday and she very rarely goes to games, as soon as she saw Carmont and Finch beat wellens she said "is that Bloke at the back for stains, carrying a fridge on his back, as my dead grannie moves quicker"

Give him a 10 year contract i say !

As great as Wellens was and give him his due he was a very good player, but a full back that gets left for pace by David Vialeki and Gareth Hock should not be playing. Even for Carmonts try he was nowhere near stopping him. I hope they give him another contract as at the moment he is a big weakness.

As a Saints fan I think that's a really fair post. Can't disagree with any of it and I think you'll find the sensible and objective Saints speccies (yes there are some of us) would concur 100%.

He wasn't on camera when he did it. Happened plenty of times since I've been going to rugby league matches. Phil Ford was particularly fond of it! Sam Tomkins just picked the wrong time to do it as a camera was on him and it was in a showpiece game on national TV and faced the consequences

Eh?
You what?

Type wigan saints semi final 2011 into you know where and watch Mr Charnley's try. Then say that again with a straight face.

It certainly looked like he was looking for him in his back pocket with all the twisting inside and out he was doing while "Super Winger Charnley" was plonking the ball under the sticks!

Apologies....my mistake.