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Quote: Cherry.Pie "This defeat isn't going to prevent us from finishing in the top 4 though. Even if we miss out by 2 points this defeat won't be the issue. We know the full strength team is good enough to finish in the top 2 so if they fail to do that the issue will be one that manifests itself over the course of the season. We are good enough to beat the best sides and if we deserve to get to the Grand Final then we will.

I don't think the players needed to be rested but the youngsters need to be tested. You could say they should be drip fed into the side but that way they aren't being tested. If you just give them a game against a weaker team they are never out of their comfort zone and against a tough side they'll be like rabbits an headlights.

Right now we've given the young players a real good test where they've really had to fight hard. We now know how players react in difficult situations and it's better to find that out as soon as possible and it's better for Shaun Wane to find out how strong some of the fringe players are right now than possibly being forced into it later on and coming unstuck.'"


Well seems that people are taking it for granted we are making top4. And i thought only SW took things for granted. We are a decent side but so are Leeds, Wire, Giants, Catalan and Hull also think Saints will give a push for top 4. No side can be sure of top 4 finish and to let 2 points slip by not playing some of your best players will comeback and bite you. As it did today.

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[b:3s8vwxwq]Sadfish[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : Peapoi is right. [b:3s8vwxwq]Geoggy[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : particularly when it comes to singing at home games. the singing at home games only really gets going in wigan games. [b:3s8vwxwq]Saddened[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : 1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk.:



We needed to win today,end of.

People on here who think we can scrape the top 8 and then win in the play offs are deluded.

It was a special Leeds perfomance last year that did it from 5th and I do not think that will be repeated again anytime soon.

We are throwing the chance of the top 2 away, if Leeds and Cats win their games in hand we go 5th.

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One word Disgraceful.


I hope Longy and Gleeson didn't find out about the team selection pre kick off.

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We aren't going to 'scrape' into the top 8, because we aren't going to rest our best players every week.

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Quote: pie eater and proud of it "We needed to win today,end of.

People on here who think we can scrape the top 8 and then win in the play offs are deluded.

It was a special Leeds perfomance last year that did it from 5th and I do not think that will be repeated again anytime soon.

We are throwing the chance of the top 2 away, if Leeds and Cats win their games in hand we go 5th.'"


Scrape into the top 8? Are you mental? We'll finish in the top 4 comfortably

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Quote: dirtbag83 "Scrape into the top 8? Are you mental? We'll finish in the top 4 comfortably'"


Really.

A good win against leeds and wins against two woeful sides in Bradford and Cas.

Losses to injury depleted Hudds and Widnes.

Not top four form.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "

Yes a stronger team would have won but as Wane said after the match he has to test the youngsters and see where they are at and how much they need to improve.'"


Not like that he doesn't and if he thinks what he did was correct he is has failed to learn a lesson and should just hold his hand up and admit he made a mistake. The hole he has made for himself is already big enough without digging it deeper by saying he was right to do what he did.

Quote: Cherry.Pie "We'll take far more out of this game than if we had battered Widnes with a full strength side. '"


No we won't. Instead of young players being introduced one at a time in an experienced side Wane compounded the problem of supposedly three injures by resting two more senior pros. Result? Instead of youngsters being introduced into the first team line up and learning the ropes alongside the senior pros they play in a team more akin to the U20 side they are used to playing in but do so against SL opposition. I fail to what good comes of that at all. They learn nothing and we lose the game.

As to the top 8 system meaning the result is not important in the grand scheme of things that may well be true but that misses the point. There is palpable anger at being ripped off.

People go to league games to support their team and hopefully see them win. If Wane pulls this stunt again he will start to alienate the fans. Do the club really want it to be that crowds only turn up for big games and the playoffs.

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Quote: wigsey "Really.

A good win against leeds and wins against two woeful sides in Bradford and Cas.

Losses to injury depleted Hudds and Widnes.

Not top four form.'"


It's March! Give your head a wobble. All this knee-jerking is just bizarre. You get no rewards for being at your best after six games. Wane will put the esablished names back in next week and we'll stuff London by 50. Then we'll be the team to beat once again!

The mob is fickle

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Quote: dirtbag83 "It's March! Give your head a wobble. All this knee-jerking is just bizarre. You get no rewards for being at your best after six games. Wane will put the esablished names back in next week and we'll stuff London by 50. Then we'll be the team to beat once again!

The mob is fickle'"


Really?? This mentality seems bizarre...every win is as important as the next..Wane Forked up big time!!

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With Warrington,Leeds,Catalans, Huddersfield and Wigan all being capable of turning each other over this year then every two points counts.

A loss against by far the worst team in superleague causes two big issues

1 loss of two ponts.

2 A chance to improve goal difference.

No team is a shoe in for top 4 this year as Sts are finding out.

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[b:3s8vwxwq]Sadfish[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : Peapoi is right. [b:3s8vwxwq]Geoggy[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : particularly when it comes to singing at home games. the singing at home games only really gets going in wigan games. [b:3s8vwxwq]Saddened[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : 1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk.:



Quote: dirtbag83 "Scrape into the top 8? Are you mental? We'll finish in the top 4 comfortably'"


Are you mental ?

I never said we would scrape into the 8, I said people on here who say we will.

FS, get a grip.

And I stand by my statement that finishing 5th or 6th is an uphill mountain to climb and we need to be top 2.

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Im all for squad rotation and resting a few players throughout the season but I think Wane definitely took it too far. Resting Pat, Leuluai, Sam, O'Loughlin and Farrell when we already have Carmont, Fielden, Roberts, out injured, with Prescott not playing due to match fitness, it was just ridiculous. I'm quite disappointed that Wane hasn't held his hand up and admitted he was wrong, yes the players on the pitch shouldn't have thrown away an 18 point lead but they were inexperienced and had no idea what to do at the end of the game when we had chances to win it. We are the laughing stock of RL today and we deserve it.

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[b:3s8vwxwq]Sadfish[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : Peapoi is right. [b:3s8vwxwq]Geoggy[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : particularly when it comes to singing at home games. the singing at home games only really gets going in wigan games. [b:3s8vwxwq]Saddened[/b:3s8vwxwq] wrote : 1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk.:



Quote: DaveO "Not like that he doesn't and if he thinks what he did was correct he is has failed to learn a lesson and should just hold his hand up and admit he made a mistake. The hole he has made for himself is already big enough without digging it deeper by saying he was right to do what he did.

No we won't. Instead of young players being introduced one at a time in an experienced side Wane compounded the problem of supposedly three injures by resting two more senior pros. Result? Instead of youngsters being introduced into the first team line up and learning the ropes alongside the senior pros they play in a team more akin to the U20 side they are used to playing in but do so against SL opposition. I fail to what good comes of that at all. They learn nothing and we lose the game.

As to the top 8 system meaning the result is not important in the grand scheme of things that may well be true but that misses the point. There is palpable anger at being ripped off.

People go to league games to support their team and hopefully see them win. If Wane pulls this stunt again he will start to alienate the fans. Do the club really want it to be that crowds only turn up for big games and the playoffs.'"


Well said Dave.

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Quote: Hutchie "No place in our game for it

Hope the RFL fine you for it too'"


Why would the RFL fine Wigan?

Today was much better for the game than if a full strength Wigan had beat Widnes 44-10 or whatever. It gives Widnes fans some hope for the season and brings excitement to the game.

It might have annoyed the Wigan fans that they have lost but at least Wigan have got faith in their young players, a lot of other clubs wouldn't produce the high quality youngsters that Wigan do so couldn't pick a squad like this.

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Quote: Guerrier "Probably nothing - ask Leeds how much a defeat in March counts when October comes round.'"

Quote: Guerrier "Todays result is totally irrelevant to our season.
You may not like that but the structure of the competition means the weekly rounds count for very little.
Wigan will be in the playoffs.'"


So Wigan fans now accept that our 5th place finish was genius?
and it's not how you start it's how you finish?

couldn't you have said that and agreed with us last october?
Regards The SL and WCC champions Leeds Rhinos

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