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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"I think the idea behind a potential move for Deacon would be for mainly stengthening the squad with an experienced player, mentoring young players, having a good professional attitude, Wigan & home grown influence and future involvement with coaching.
An Overseas player such as Orford would IMO be the typical end of career, 2 year big payout contract with every intention of going home at the end of his spell.'"
I really can't see a downside in getting Deacon.
He isn't going to cost the earth, will give us plenty of experience and hopefully the long kicking game that we've been a bit lacking in since Trent went home. We don't have a senior specialist Scrum Half at the club, so it's an area for development.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Matt Orford will be 32 at the beginning of next year and will be looking for a minimum two year big contract.
If we were to bring Deacon in a coaching capacity to help Tomkins, Mellor and Powell to develop, and be used as emergency backup then that would be great idea.
Deacon was probably the most underrated scrum half in the game, and had the best kicking game.'"
I think that is the key point. Bringing him in to help coach would be a good idea BUT if he was to take up ANY of your playing contract i would be dissappointed if i was a Wigan fan.
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| Deacs is a very smart bloke isn't he? Straights As at school, would have gone on to uni but for debuting in SL in '98. I'd have thought he would be an asset to have round the club.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"I think that is the key point. Bringing him in to help coach would be a good idea BUT if he was to take up ANY of your playing contract i would be dissappointed if i was a Wigan fan.'"
Not really - given that beyond the two first choice half-backs (Tommy and Sam) there is no one ready to step up in the event of either being un-available, any young players are by all accounts not ready to make that step up. So having someone of Deacon's experieince available as a cover would be a sensible option - especially as it sounds like his primary role would be coaching the younger players to make the step up after him.
I can't really see a downside - Wigan have cover in most positions or at least have younger players looking to make that next step, half-back is the exception.
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| I still think i'd prefer Orford.
But if we are unable to move on any of our current players I suppose he provides cover, but where has this coaching thing come from? What are his credentials? I hope they are more than just being a Wiganer.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"I think that is the key point. Bringing him in to help coach would be a good idea BUT if he was to take up ANY of your playing contract i would be dissappointed if i was a Wigan fan.'"
Why tho?
It's not like we are signing him to be one of the starting HB’s is it? We’ve already got two of the best young HB’s in SL cemented in as a pairing for us.
We've got Mellor in the reserves who is supposed to be a very good player but I’d be cautious about the possibility of throwing both him and Sam in as HB pairing next year if Tommy get injured.
What’s the difference in us singing a 31 year old BACK UP HB and Hudds signing Gilmour to START for them? Deacon is nothing more than cover and depth for the first team.
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| if he was from down under there wouldnt be many moaning
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| Quote wiganstu="wiganstu"if he was from down under there wouldnt be many moaning'"
Don't be daft, this place is borderline BNP towards aussies, see Roberts & Riddell for further details.
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| I think it's a good call, hopefully he'll do a lot of work on our kicking game, he kicked us to death in many a game.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I think it's a good call, hopefully he'll do a lot of work on our kicking game, he kicked us to death in many a game.'"
So did Danny Orr, but he turned out to be useless.
Dont think deacon would be a good signing, take his kicking away and he is pot, however his kicking is very good, and we arnt very good at it.
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"So did Danny Orr, but he turned out to be useless.'"
Orr was decent, he was hamstrung by having a clown like Millward as coach and Denis Moran as his halfback partner.
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"So did Danny Orr, but he turned out to be useless.'"
Danny Orr didn't coach us, and wasn't exactly surrounded by class when he played.
Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"Dont think deacon would be a good signing, take his kicking away and he is pot, however his kicking is very good, and we arnt very good at it.'"
Then only have him coach kicking, to be fair that's the main thing our halfbacks need coaching in.
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