The current SL table order with penalties received added. 

Pos	Team	Pens Received	Pens Conceded	Delta
1	Hull KR	33	25	8
2	Hull FC	33	33	0
3	Wigan Warriors	14	21	-7
4	St Helens	36	29	7
5	Warrington Wolves	31	24	7
6	Leigh Leopards	34	24	10
7	Leeds Rhinos	35	24	11
8	Wakefield Trinity	28	31	-3
9	Catalans Dragons	37	32	5
10	Castleford Tigers	28	38	-10
11	Salford Red Devils	23	44	-21
12	Huddersfield Giants	22	25	-3

I'm not complaining about the number of penalties in our matches, I'm all for refs keeping their whistles out of their mouths, but our games and to a slightly lesser degree Hudds, look to be being played under a different set of rules.
Quite bizarre 

It's crazy that you have to get to the 8th placed club before you find another team in negative figures and 10th before you get a worse one than ours. That can't be right. All bar Hull are net 14 or more better off than us. 

Thanks "Wiggin2" for the table.


That is absolutely dreadful. 


I do hope the club have taken this up with the RFL/Match Officials. 


Thing is if MP or an anyone commented on anything like this they'd be fined for bringing the game into disrepute. Trouble is it is clearly the match officials who are bringing the game into disrepute.


 

You could accept maybe 20-30% difference, though even that is extreme. But the fact we've received 60% less penalties than all teams around us makes it clear that refs are applying different rules to our games than others.


Then you double down with the fact that we are losing penalty counts despite being the league top scorers and have the joint 2nd best defence.


It also has to be direction from the refs structure, rather than at individual level as it's so consistent and I think we've had 4 or 5 different refs so far this year.

Even me, whose moaned my tits off the most about this and started the conversation, is surprised just how bad it all looks in black and white. Fans from all sides always complain about various things and when it comes to refs, you rarely have cold,hard facts and figures to back up your argument but we do. It's shocking and simply not right.

 I watched the House of league podcast with Matt Shaw earlier and he's Leeds bias no doubt but he highlighted how they were just about the best disciplined team in the league before the Wire game and how it made no sense how they were then pinged time and again against Wire, while getting very few pens themselves. If only he had a look at our figures! It's absolutely staggering. HKR in a couple of weeks will be a mess, no doubt about it. I'm going for 7 or 8 to 1. 

Also NK, it's the six agains too which we can't find the figures for. 
Leeds seems a typical example with Pen 5-1 in the Rhinos favour together with 3-0- to them on the 6 agains.
Overall 8-1 advantage in sets awarded will skew any match. Seeing that it does appear the lads on the field did a great job with only ending up 2 points down.


We do need to publicise this but the right way to do it is the conundrum.


 

And to make things better, Peet has been fined for an incident during the Hull game

And to make things better, Peet has been fined for an incident during the Hull game

Interesting to see Peet commenting that yet again we didn't receive one 6 again in the match. Hard to believe that Saints didn't lie on just a little too long just once in that game. 


Haven't seen the stats but I would hazard a guess that we received a pretty low pens for again.

Pens Wig 4-5 Saints. Can't find 6 agains but I can't remember many either way during the game
Edit, 6 agains were Wig 0-3 Saints, taken off RV Good Friday thread

To be fair to saints I don?t remember many times when they were messing in the ruck or slow but I could say the same for us

It's far easier complaining after big wins. We continue to lose penalty counts and opposition sides continue to have their best disciplinary displays of the season against us. The six agains are the biggest bug bear at the minute. A side getting none should be a side who doesn't cause opposition teams many problems in attack and who are easy to defend against. Teams are scrambling to slow down an attack involving Field, Marshall, French, Nsemba etc and are as clean as a whistle 'every single week'.