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5 for Ellis, Dezaria downgraded to C, 3 matches icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: apollosghost "5 for Ellis, Dezaria downgraded to C, 3 matches You should also sit out from RLFANS mate until Ellis is back icon_lol.gif

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Quote: NSW "You should also sit out from RLFANS mate until Ellis is back
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You have to give both players the same ban and against Stains Dudson did exactly what Ellis did and only got 3 matches and he's got a shocking disciplinary record,Wigan might as well appeal the grading the worst they can do is make it 6 matches

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So Ellis get 5 and the guy who started it all gets 3.
So smashing your elbow into a players face when he's prone on the floor is less an offence than the fella who punches him on the nose.
For decades the idea that the perpetrator gets suffers worse than the the victim is part of the stupidity of rules and laws compared to natural justice.
Hardly the first time it's happened and certainly won't be the last.

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Sorry, meant that the victim suffers worse than the perpetrator is stupid.
Just leaves me infuriated.

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I watched the incident again yesterday and the only reason I can see for Dezaria getting less is that his aim wasn’t as good.

Shambles of a call. I’ve no issue with the 5 for Ellis but how he gets less is beyond me.

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Well I thought Ellis was going to get 8 so for him to only get 5 is a blessing.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I watched the incident again yesterday and the only reason I can see for Dezaria getting less is that his aim wasn’t as good.

Shambles of a call. I’ve no issue with the 5 for Ellis but how he gets less is beyond me.'"


Exactly my thoughts. Either three for both of them or five for both of them icon_rolleyes.gif

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On what grounds was Dezaris charge reduced ?

Surely they are both guilty of punching and Dezaris has additional punishment due for attacking the head of a tackled player on the ground?

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Quote: NickyKiss "I watched the incident again yesterday and the only reason I can see for Dezaria getting less is that his aim wasn’t as good.

Shambles of a call. I’ve no issue with the 5 for Ellis but how he gets less is beyond me.'"


Retaliation is always a stiffer charge these days. For me Dezaria 2 games and Ellis 3 games for a bit of biff. If Ellis broke a players jaw then thats a different matter.

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Pretty obvious that one guy plays for Wigan and the other guy doesn't.

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Quote: Judder Man "Retaliation is always a stiffer charge these days. For me Dezaria 2 games and Ellis 3 games for a bit of biff. If Ellis broke a players jaw then thats a different matter.'"


But they both retaliate?

Ellis retaliates to an elbow dropped in his face (just watched it again and if we’re trying to rid dangerous acts from the game they’ve got one right there) and punches him once and Dezaria retaliates to that and throws two punches back.

So one punch=5 games

One elbow drop and two punches=3 games

I honestly cannot believe he’s got less in this case. I don’t buy in to it being a Wigan thing, or believe there is any bias towards one club or the other but they seem to have such a rigid system and it’s clearly not working. You connect with a punch so you get more games. You throw once punch that lands, retaliating to one elbow drop and two punches (all that don’t really connect seriously) and you get more all because you happened to be more accurate. It’s like they’re scoring amateur boxing.

Wigan will surely be looking for an explanation on this one. The whole game deserves some sort of explanation.

**and to make it clear-I have no problem with the Ellis ban, I just don’t agree with what has been given to Dezaria**

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Quote: NickyKiss "But they both retaliate?

Ellis retaliates to an elbow dropped in his face (just watched it again and if we’re trying to rid dangerous acts from the game they’ve got one right there) and punches him once and Dezaria retaliates to that and throws two punches back.

So one punch

I know it comes across as swivel eyed stuff, but what else can it be apart from an anti Wigan agenda?

You've done a far better job in breaking down how the incident unfolded and you can see the logic and thought process behind what you've said. You can also add in that Ellis, as a new signing, has zero baggage with the judiciary too.

So again, what else can it be?

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