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Quote: Agent Mulder "The MOS is awarded (or supposed to be awarded) to the player who has made the most influence. Roby therefore makes the most influence in most areas. If Tomkins plays poorly the team is still able to perform to almost the same level. As you are saying 'shut Roby down and you shut the team down. Wereas shut Sam down and the team can still play.'"


fair point

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I think its good that there is no standout individual and will a tough one to call. Sam, Roby, Monas, Lockers and Chase have all been strong this year but for me its between the first 2.

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Between Sam Tomkins and Roby for me. Roby's made 1000 metres than anyone else and is only 2 tackles behind the top tackler, but then Tomkins has that ability to turn a game with a sidestep or whatever. I think it depends what you look for in the Man of Steel that settles it between these two.

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Between Roby, Monaghan and Sam forget the others.

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If you looks at Robys stats he does things in massive quantity like metres, tackles, runs from dummy half etc but then when you look at Sams he's coming up with real quality. He's producing trys, assists, clean breaks, tackle busts etc by the bucket load and when you talk about the amount of metres Roby has made his average metres per drive is miles behind Sams( but then Sam obviously does get the room at fullback). We can then look at tackles made and Sams are very low but then again thats obviously going to be the case when he's playing at the back.

Stats mean little at the end of the day but then if we are to look at them i'm not having it that they point in Robys direction over Sams at all. They play totally different positions and whilst both are on fire this year I think Sam is coming up with the match winning plays where maybe Roby is coming up with the sort of effort thats keeping Saints in some games.

Both would be worthy winners but I think Sam has edged ahead in the past month or 2.

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Quote: Agent Mulder "The MOS is awarded (or supposed to be awarded) to the player who has made the most influence. Roby therefore makes the most influence in most areas. If Tomkins plays poorly the team is still able to perform to almost the same level. As you are saying 'shut Roby down and you shut the team down. Wereas shut Sam down and the team can still play.'"


No, it just means you've more dead wood than us icon_twisted.gif

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I would be very tempted to say Sam but I'd love to see Lockers get it.

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I know Roby has gone well and Westwood for that matter, but I cannot see it going anywhere apart from to Sam.

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Shoud be it by a country mile, people really dont understand just how much this guy does, opposition coaches even call him the the best in the league, speaks volumes imo. Just because hes not scoring full length trys does not mean he is not the man of steel, 63 tackles, non missed, That is steel.; The whole systems a joke for me, sams worthy yes, but lockers define MAN OF STEEL.'"


James Roby tackles in the season so far - 777
Sean O'loughlin - 534

although O'loughlin is a work horse with roby having most tackles in superleague and most metres gained it'd be scandalous if he didn't get Man Of Steel.

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No complaints if Roby got it this year. At least he would deserve it this time.........

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Quote: Agent Mulder "The MOS is awarded (or supposed to be awarded) to the player who has made the most influence. Roby therefore makes the most influence in most areas. If Tomkins plays poorly the team is still able to perform to almost the same level. As you are saying 'shut Roby down and you shut the team down. Wereas shut Sam down and the team can still play.'"


Then Briers should have got MoS for ten years running because it's always been shut him down and you shut Wire down

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Then Briers should have got MoS for ten years running because it's always been shut him down and you shut Wire down'"


icon_lol.gif I'm sure he'd have won Warrington's Man of Wire award in those years then.

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Serious debating question, why is that the Man Of Steel invariably comes from a side in the top 3, there are players who've played really well all season in other teams eg Scott Dureau and if influence is the mark of the winner then he's got to be right up there- all the names mentioned above have been right up there in terms of great form but it shouldnt be a closed shop

and if the premier league can pick a player of the year from a side who finished in bottom place in the table then we should be following their example ( cant believe im saying that) and picking the best player regardless of who they play for

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: philipk "Serious debating question, why is that the Man Of Steel invariably comes from a side in the top 3, there are players who've played really well all season in other teams eg Scott Dureau and if influence is the mark of the winner then he's got to be right up there- all the names mentioned above have been right up there in terms of great form but it shouldnt be a closed shop

and if the premier league can pick a player of the year from a side who finished in bottom place in the table then we should be following their example ( cant believe im saying that) and picking the best player regardless of who they play for'"


Adrian Vowles won it about 10 years ago, the exception that proves the rule (unless Cas finished in the top 3?!)

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Adrian Vowles did win it -in 1999, Cas came 5th that season, i think the lowest since then was Brett Hodgson from 3rd placed Hudds in 2009, i forgot to mention Rangi Chase before , been really good all season , and a very worthy candidate

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