Quote: jonh "So you would say a lad who played Schoolboy rugby union 20 years ago has more experience than someone who has studied League all there lives. Its an interesting point of view i guess, but one which i cannot agree with.'" Well he walked into a coaching role in union without too much fuss so he can't have been that clueless. Like I said I don't know much about Jones, but I would be surprised if he could come to League and be as successful as Edwards has been in union. Quote: jonh "So there is nothing at all we can learn from one of Union's top coaches? '" Last time I watched union all I saw was a bunch of forwards running it up the middle. An interesting point on Jones "His win-loss ratio is the lowest of any Wallabies coach." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Jones_(rugby) Lets sign him up

Quote: jonh "So you would say a lad who played Schoolboy rugby union 20 years ago has more experience than someone who has studied League all there lives. Its an interesting point of view i guess, but one which i cannot agree with.'" Well he walked into a coaching role in union without too much fuss so he can't have been that clueless. Like I said I don't know much about Jones, but I would be surprised if he could come to League and be as successful as Edwards has been in union. Quote: jonh "So there is nothing at all we can learn from one of Union's top coaches? '" Last time I watched union all I saw was a bunch of forwards running it up the middle. An interesting point on Jones "His win-loss ratio is the lowest of any Wallabies coach." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Jones_(rugby) Lets sign him up

Exactly like Noble tactics, which most people on here agree are getting us nowhere. A good argument for not signing union coaches IMO





I think the best League coaches will be better at coaching League than the best union coaches, and going by his record as Oz national coach, Jones probably isn't one of those anyway.'"

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By who? Worst record of any Wallabies coach, in 2007 his Queensland Reds team finished bottom after managing 2 wins in a season. He had an advisory role with Soth Africa when they won the RUWC in 07. I remember reports of the final of how SA had managed to out England the English, that is play boring kicking rugby and relying on penalties ad drop goals to win. To me he sounds like exactly the kind of person I would hate to have at my club, and sounds very similar to Noble, so I have no idea why you are standing up for him

Mate i mean this in the nicest possible way but you in your first post said you did not know about Eddie Jones and now you seem to be an expert.

If you think Jones is not highly regarded as one of the most creative and attack minded coaches in the code you are wrong. The very fact he was asked to advise the World Champions clearly indicated he is well thought of, still 2 paragraphs on Wikipedia is a great depth of knowledge.

Maybe you're right, but I can only go off what I've read on him. From my admittedly limited knowledge he doesn't sound like the kind of person I would trust with improving our team. He failed with the Wallabies, failed with the Reds, then a played a part in the success of SA, who won with the negative tactics of kicking at every opportunity and winning the RUWC final by an enthralling 5 kicks to 3.

If you can link me to some sites that detail his success in improving teams attack and creativity I would love to read them

Its an interesting one to say he failed with the Aussies given they were far from favorited to win the World Cup, i think they were 3rd favorites behind the Kiwi's who they out thought in the semi and England.

Jones suffered his fate due to the lack of quality Australian players, after the retirement of the backbone of the Aussie team after the World Cup, something they are still struggling to come to terms with today.

Jones is regarded as the mastermind behind the SA win, and he adapted a game plan to produce a winning team that brought back the trophy at the top level, with arguably again not the most talented team in the comp, harldy something he should be criticised for surely?!

He won the Super 12 with the Brumbies i think using many League style tactics to the best running rugby union comp in the world, he has shown the ability to adapt, which is crucial.

As i have said i think it would be a huge mistake for him to come to Wigan and walk into the headship unless he had an experienced number 2 to offer him massive support, or back up.

If this bloke was right in and if Jones comes to Wigan - say in some sort of Director of Rugby role - his League qualifications or lack of, may not matter.

Perhaps he could bring something to the table around club structure, player development, player analysis, junior development, nutrition etc...etc..

Perhaps it may be the type of role that Joe Lydon used to do, no hands-on coaching but input to the club from upstairs.

If he could bring something new to the club, which didn't upset the coaching staff, then I'd be up for it. Let's face it, we do need to improve a lot!!!!

Mick Hogan?

Joe Lydons replacement maybe?

Thought that Ray Unsworth is now the Player Performance Director.

Is working on the commercial side and community side i was thinking more like recruitment, development and performance of players. Similar to what Lydon 'did'.

Ahh fair enough. In that case, lets bring in someone from within RL, many many people could do that job.