Sounds like you are a member of the Communist or Socialist Workers Party judging by your comments.

Not really (and certainly not factually, I've voted Tory four times in General Elections, Labour once).
But there is a denial of reality, displacement of responsibility and rejection of empathy that has become so tragically common amongst all too many supporters of the Conservative party and the party itself.

As it stands they have become far too extreme for me to vote for even if I agree with what are supposed to be some of their underlying economic policies.

A couple of pages ago I wrote about how it never ceases to amaze me how one side gets labelled as Snowflake, get accused of not being able to debate, accused of name calling and not being educated/loony etc yet it's ok for the right leaners to name call etc. And they want to shut debate down.
I never thought though that being educated would be one of the accusations you would have to defend.

Much better to be educated by Facebook, Twitter, Fox News, YouTube, Alex Jones, Breitbart, Turning point etc apparently

Once again facts have been presented, but no replies. (The George floyd accusation, the rubbish about BBC only allowing "Lefties" who are communists, marxists on to name just 2). Neither get replies, people just ignore what's presented, and people wonder why the governments are allowed to do the same thing. I've seen people with my own eyes who backed Brexit, now 100% back Bojo and the others, purely to save face over Brexit and when you present any kind of fact/argument thatbthey dont like they suddenly want to stop debate and move on to something else.
Just more requests to "Just Believe us". (And yes I did use a 3 word slogan deliberate there).

Qanon followers I bet

Facts dont matter anymore

When you say facts don't matter, we shall see whether facts matter once the verdict of how George Floyd died and how people in the US react to Trump getting a second term due to being democratically elected, let's see how the left deal with facts. Probably by civil war.

We certainly will

I mean I've already provided a link debunking the other posters claim that he died of heart disease etc.
And as for civil war, weve seen the pictures of the people with guns! We know what their intention is if he doesnt get a 2nd term

To be honest, I think the Country would explode should he win, not a whimper if he loses.

Whether you like Trump or not, if you trust the Democrats you are living in cloud cuckoo land. At least Trump is telling you what he's going to do, I'd much rather someone say 'I'm going to punch you in the face' and then do that, rather than a Democrat/Labour who would say 'I'm not going to punch you in the face' then proceed to kick you in the gonads time and time again and flat out deny it.

If Hillary Clinton won that last election the US and the UK would be in full scale war in Libya and Syria.

Ps - This thread should be renamed the 4am kitchen conversation after smoking too much wacky backy

Just like they didn't when she was Secretary of State you mean?
Honestly it's so hard to discuss things when you have an entirely different set of facts.

Ok - If that's what you think
Let's just say that your watching/reading totally different views to what's really going on that I am - I'm more than confident in my choices.

Correct
It's Mind Boggling

Watched the 4 part Documentary on her about 2months ago - Very good viewing

Let's see what "kicking in the gonads" looks like by the way shall we - all the things which less well off Americans rely on for their basic existence, which are hugely popular, came from things Democrats did.

Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care Act, Social Security, voting rights, civil rights, minimum wages, Head Start, clean air and clean water. Trump and his party on the poor and the powerless over and over again yet millions of people who don't care to look at the actual facts believe they are their friends.

I've got family/in-laws in the States, the divide between Trump supporters and anybody but Trump makes Britain's great brexit divide look like a squabble over the telly remote.
They'd be amazed if the US survives in its current state the chasm is that huge.

Yeah, but they're going to

Build the Wall
Lock her up
Get Brexit Done

Ooops Sorry, That last ones a different government isn't it, wonder why I got them confused?

That's what happens when you build walls instead of Bridges

The whole mess in the middle east is down to her meddling.