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| They could have voted, some may be in favour of going to 12 from 14. I think they all think as I do that if they vote on this and it's agreed they'll have a hell of a hard time getting the RFL around the table to discuss marketing and finances or the lack there of in this case.
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| Quote: Pemps "There's probably a lot more to it than is being reported. Currently it's just stating that the 6 walked out because they didn't agree that the league should be reduced to 12 teams (I think that's the right way forward) but the other week it was reported that they didn't agree with the two leagues of 12 down to 3 leagues of 8.
As much as I'm no fan of Hetherington I think the crux of his issue is they should have stayed and just voted, which they probably should. The problem may be that the 6 think that the RFL have got a few teams over a barrel regarding their place in SL so they know those teams will be trying to keep the RFL sweet so it's not a balanced vote.
I don't know what's going on.'"
I'm actually undecided but the only angle I can see it from is that the clubs involved walked out not because of not wanting a particular league structure one way or another, but possibly because they also want the RFL's performance to be reviewed alongside any changes.
What you say in your first paragraph add's to that and only makes it seem like the RFL are only telling half a story.
But like you say, certain clubs aren't going to go against the RFL when their existence pretty much depends on them.
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| Quote: Robbo "I'm actually undecided but the only angle I can see it from is that the clubs involved walked out not because of not wanting a particular league structure one way or another, but possibly because they also want the RFL's performance to be reviewed alongside any changes'"
from reading other forums i would say that this is the crux of the argument. the rfl confirmed the vote would take place AFTER the world cup yet at the meeting they where asked to vote on it. the 6 clubs want the performance aspects discussing simultaneously and when they werent they walked
interesting to note that of the 8 remaining clubs, Salford, Bradford, Wakey, Cas & London are all in debt to the RFL. not sure what Saint's position is.............
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""from reading other forums i would say that this is the crux of the argument. the rfl confirmed the vote would take place AFTER the world cup yet at the meeting they where asked to vote on it. the 6 clubs want the performance aspects discussing simultaneously and when they werent they walked
interesting to note that of the 8 remaining clubs, Salford, Bradford, Wakey, Cas & London are all in debt to the RFL. not sure what Saint's position is.............'"
I'd wager Salford and Saints would jump ship if it came down to it. If they did that's 8 of next season's likely top 9 in revolt!
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| Quote: Grimmy "I'd wager Salford and Saints would jump ship if it came down to it. If they did that's 8 of next season's likely top 9 in revolt!'"
From his twitter account the the Salford owner has said he has reservations around the RFL and Wood. But the format is only window dressing.
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""from reading other forums i would say that this is the crux of the argument. the rfl confirmed the vote would take place AFTER the world cup yet at the meeting they where asked to vote on it. the 6 clubs want the performance aspects discussing simultaneously and when they werent they walked
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Doesn't sound as if the RFL had done their homework. They presumably decided to break the original agreement and force a vote because they thought they'd win - can't see any other reason at all - and then they didn't.
Another storming result for Nigel Wood.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Doesn't sound as if the RFL had done their homework. They presumably decided to break the original agreement and force a vote because they thought they'd win - can't see any other reason at all - and then they didn't.
Another storming result for Nigel Wood.'"
I honestly believe that Nigel Wood spends longer deciding what to order off a takeaway menu than he does on decisions regarding RL. The guy is a grade A plank
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| The RFL have recuced the sport to a shambles on and off the field.
Off the field there is now a complete split between the progressive clubs who want a review of the whole governance of the sport and the RFL who want no such thing and to keep the sport and RFL management as it is.
Then there is the shambles over the International players ignoring a no alcohol ban and going out for a drinking session. It is obvious that McNamara is out of touch with his players, they don't have any respect for him or his intructions or no doubt his man management. McNamara made an utter mess of the Danny Brough playing for England situation and has handled the drinking session and Hock disastrously. Hock appearing on TV giving his version was a PR disaster for the sport. What affect all this will have on team morale doesn't bear thinking about.
That's two England coaches the RFL have appointed who have been an absolute disaster. Tony Smith led England to the most embarrassing World Cup ever, or so far, in 2008. No one could then quite believe it when they appointed McNamara. He proved at Bradford he was a very poor coach and the Bulls sacked (released) him to join England early. The Italy defeat was the latest in a line of miserable performances under McNamara. The RFL should have got rid a long time ago.
This why we need a complete review of the sport at the top and RFL level.
Where we go from here is anyone's guess.
First start will be resignations after the WC. Barwick will probably be the first.
Then hopefully others will follow.
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61641_1313077623.png [color=#FF0000:18ol665r]A Pie is for life, not just a Wembley Final[/color:18ol665r]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_61641.png |
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""I honestly believe that Nigel Wood spends longer deciding what to order off a takeaway menu than he does on decisions regarding RL. The guy is a grade A plank'"
How long does it take to say "one of everything on the menu"
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| Quote: pie.warrior "How long does it take to say "one of everything on the menu"'"
a touch longer than it takes to say "3 8's"
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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It appears that Person at Hull is not for being bullied.
Taken from the Hull fans forum tonight.
Quote: AirlieJo "Pearson has just said we have concerns with the way game is being run and we won't be pressured into a hurried vote. Says Gary Hetherington has had 17 years helping run game and time other clubs had a say and he won't get an apology
Six of the competition's top clubs have grave concerns and another (St Helens) were not around to vote. Pick it up again after World Cup'"
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It appears that Person at Hull is not for being bullied.
Taken from the Hull fans forum tonight.
Quote: AirlieJo "Pearson has just said we have concerns with the way game is being run and we won't be pressured into a hurried vote. Says Gary Hetherington has had 17 years helping run game and time other clubs had a say and he won't get an apology
Six of the competition's top clubs have grave concerns and another (St Helens) were not around to vote. Pick it up again after World Cup'"
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It appears that Person at Hull is not for being bullied.
Taken from the Hull fans forum tonight.
So the Rebellion was in a minority last night. Nice of Hetherington to go to the media and tell that only 6 walked out pity he never mentioned Saints did not attend.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It appears that Person at Hull is not for being bullied.
Taken from the Hull fans forum tonight.
Picking it up after the World Cup is the best thing to do.
Can't help wondering if that was the plan when the RFL allegedly agreed to postpone the vote, and then suddenly - mysteriously - changed their minds this week (and even then couldn't win it).
What a shower, and how unsurprising that Hetherington is their leader.
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| Quote: tank123 "So the Rebellion was in a minority last night.'" Was it? Quote: tank123 "Nice of Hetherington to go to the media and tell that only 6 walked out pity he never mentioned Saints did not attend.'"
Saints would make it 7 and that would be including the RFL chairman.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Was it? Saints would make it 7 and that would be including the RFL chairman.'"
The way it was put to us last night by Hetherington it was 8-6 but he did not tell us that Saints never turned up. Seems to me they were the ones not wanting to negotiate.
We all know its not a minority even the Salford owner has reservations on the RFL and Wood.
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