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| I think Wigan play as though they have practised moves in training and usually move it well from wing to wing.
Warrington didn’t seem to have a move in them but their strong athletic players are good at offloading the ball which creates chances.
Wigan have only one player who can regularly offload and we all know who he is.
Off the cuff play often creates tries and we can’t do it.
I was pleased with the effort and the game was entertaining.
The one failing was the appalling decision of the referee which killed the game off for Wigan.
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| Hicks was right on top of the collision between Marshall and Charnley.
Up until the replay after Lam slated Hicks, I too thought it could have had a VT run, however Hicks who was closest and saw exactly what we all saw with the close up after the Lam interview, that he was 100% correct not to go to the screen.
The close up shown Marshall moving towards the centre field and into Charnley’s shin with his head and Charnley unable to get out of the way.
Also what the video didn’t show, was Marshall thumping the ground just after he lost the ball. That was only visible from the stands as it was off camera as Mamo sprints clear.
So the question is, if the ref is 100% sure with what he saw, (and the reply backs up that decision), why is it, we are getting calls for, ‘it should have gone to the screen!”?
It obviously shouldn’t because Hicks was 100% sure and 100% correct.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Hicks was right on top of the collision between Marshall and Charnley.
Up until the replay after Lam slated Hicks, I too thought it could have had a VT run, however Hicks who was closest and saw exactly what we all saw with the close up after the Lam interview, that he was 100% correct not to go to the screen.
The close up shown Marshall moving towards the centre field and into Charnley’s shin with his head and Charnley unable to get out of the way.
Also whatt the video didn’t show, was Marshall thumping the ground just after he lost the ball. That was only visible from the stands.
So the question is, if the ref is 100% sure with what he saw, and the reply backs up that decision, why is it, we are getting calls for, ‘it should have gone to the screen!”?'"
He had hold of the ball until he was kicked in the head you dumb f*ckwit!
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| Quote: CobraCraig "Are you for real? He was clearly knocked unconscious.'"
Nope. He was acting. Marshall thumped the ground when he lost the ball, as
Mamo was away. The camera followed Mamo and Marshall ground thump wasn’t seen on tv. Unless there is a 4/5 second delay getting ‘clearly knocked out’!?
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| Quote: warrior1872 "Are you stupid he failed his HIA and is now missing for the game on Sunday'"
He’s not stupid. Marshall milked it, he was not knocked out, after he lost the ball and thumped the ground, he suddenly became prone.
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| It's a penalty even if he was acting. He only lost the ball through contact to the head. I can't imagine many watching the prone player In that situation and if he wasn't injured with the game still only at two scores then going off. Sounds like your talking which reading this site regularly is so very unusual .
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Nope. He was acting. Marshall thumped the ground when he lost the ball, as
Mamo was away. The camera followed Mamo and Marshall ground thump wasn’t seen on tv. Unless there is a 4/5 second delay getting ‘clearly knocked out’!?'"
And I thought that they had closed Winwick Hospital, how silly of me! If Marshall was acting then how did he fail an HIA? Obviously, there is some sort of conspiracy going on.
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| He needs to go, was sick of seeing his annoyed/baffled face on sky whenever things werent going well, like this isn’t down to his own terrible decisions and bad coaching.
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| Quote: Salty "How could a team with a 44% completion rate be the better team?'"
The scoreline. It shows just how bad Wigan played that they couldn't even go into the break ahead...
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| Quote: DaveO "You clearly don’t know the rules. It doesn’t matter if head contact like that is accidental or not, that’s a penalty and the ref got it wrong.'"
Think you might want to brush up on the rules yourself there bud. Accidental things aren't penalties, they're accidents. I do think it should have gone to the video ref to check whether it was intentional/reckless though.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Think you might want to brush up on the rules yourself there bud. Accidental things aren't penalties, they're accidents. I do think it should have gone to the video ref to check whether it was intentional/reckless though.'"
That's where the ref went wrong.
An awful lot of people on here are assuming it was an accident (presumably because the offender was Charnley, who usually doesn't know what's going on in front of his nose let alone has time to kick it).
That's a big assumption when something is happening at game-speed.
But it's often been the case that accidental collision with the head has resulted in penalties. Rightly or wrongly, we've all seen it and been infuriated by it dozens of times.
It was typical of Hicks, the most snivelling excuse for a referee we've got (out of a whole selection of them) to choose this occasion to do nothing at all.
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| I’d love to get worked up about the decision but it’s not the reason we lose the game and it’s an easy excuse for Lam to hide behind. He should be appalled at the attack we’re serving up and that’s on him. We have far bigger worries with Lam in charge than a player being accidentally caught on the head. The attack is that bad it felt like game over at 14-8 anyway, as I didn’t see where anymore points were coming from.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I’d love to get worked up about the decision but it’s not the reason we lose the game and it’s an easy excuse for Lam to hide behind. He should be appalled at the attack we’re serving up and that’s on him. We have far bigger worries with Lam in charge than a player being accidentally caught on the head. The attack is that bad it felt like game over at 14-8 anyway, as I didn’t see where anymore points were coming from.'"
That was the actual reason I started this thread.
I agreed with him about Hicks' pathetic error, but for him to then say that Wigan were the better team was not just churlish, it made him look ridiculous.
If he genuinely can't see where Wigan are going wrong at present, then he can't be a coach. It's that simple.
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| Quote: Salty "How could a team with a 44% completion rate be the better team?'"
The more pertinent question for me is, how did we not beat a team with 44% completion in the first half and less than 60% across the whole game!
Warrington are a very poor side despite their spending, and can only occasionally turn it on and have a good day. Theyre another Castleford, which is why they'll never get near champions this year.
But the worrying thing for me was, Wire were so poor yet we were never really in the game. Dominated field position and possession yet lackluster and completely devoid of ideas near the line. We never looked like making a break and kicks were our best chance of scoring.
For Lam to come out and say that was 'outstanding' is baffling! He's undermining his own credibility with his post match comments...I think possibly out of mistaken loyalty to the players and wanting to keep their heads up, but you can't give them false praise like that when the performance was dire! I'm no big fan of wanes, but he would have at least told it how it was last night, and ripped into them where he needed to.
You get the sense Lam goes into the dressing room and tells them how good they are, and they were just unlucky and unfairly treated on decisions. Yes, we got some baffling decisions against us last night (the mamo try and the bibby one at the end which should have been awarded), yet even with those decisions, we were still chasing the game and wire always looked the more likely. Regardless of how poor wire were!
Towards the end the players had lost the plot....the victim/ world is against us mentality had consumed them, and all their energy was going into feeling aggrieved (whether with reason or not). Thats a dangerous mindset and you're never going to win like that.
We need to sensibly assess last nights performance as nowhere near good enough against a poor side, rather than bury our head in the sand and find reasons why we were badly done to.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Powell out on his feet from about 25-30 mins in and Bourouh gets 5 minutes at the end. Even in his 5 minutes he offered something different and carried a threat but what’s the point picking him? No Mitch Clark another baffling call. He isn’t perfect but he’s a point of difference again and if you have no intention to give Bourouh a decent crack, just pick the extra forward.
I can’t wait for Lam to go tbh. He’s just not good enough.'"
If Wane doesnt get the gig, would you have Maguire back? He seems to be on borrowed time at the Tigers as he has lost the dressing room and I cant see any other NRL team take a punt on him
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