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I said it yesterday, but why aren't the club trying to find a way to showcase games on Wigan TV? It p!sses me off that, if I wanted to, I can watch a stream of Latics playing in the 3rd Division against another generic footy club, but I can't do that for us.

Everyone points to us having an aging fan base and one that's going to be more Covid cautious than anything. Yes, it might have an impact on ticket sales, but I'm not sure how much? Those that have bought season tickets, will be accounted for and I'm sure there's more chance of getting casual or lapsed fans to pay £10 for a stream than, banking on them turning up. You could give it a primetime NFL feel, get cameras in the dressing rooms, interview with Lam at HT and a digital programme or golden gamble etc.

I get it's probably down to Sky, but there has to be new ways of thinking in what is a new world.

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Sounds like Leeds had around 10-11k on last night (a guess from one of their fans, I can’t find anything official) which is probably a drop of 2-3k on a normal attendance against Salford. We were down about 5k on what you’d have expected for a game against Wakey pre Covid. That extra 2-3k we’ve lost is a sign of what is being served up on the field.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Sounds like Leeds had around 10-11k on last night (a guess from one of their fans, I can’t find anything official) which is probably a drop of 2-3k on a normal attendance against Salford. We were down about 5k on what you’d have expected for a game against Wakey pre Covid. That extra 2-3k we’ve lost is a sign of what is being served up on the field.'"


Apart from Hastings and a nice finish from Bibby the overall quality of the game was very poor.
I’m not sure how things are going to improve in the short term with a limited coach and bad luck on the injury front.

As worrying a time that I can recall since the late 70’s to early 80’s.
It took Uncle Mo and Co to drag us out of those depths but I’m uncertain if IL has the energy or resources to turn it around

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The only reason I'm not going to games now we are able is, because of the cr*p standard of rugby where serving up, and I'd imagine there's many more with the same mindset

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I said it yesterday, but why aren't the club trying to find a way to showcase games on Wigan TV? '"


I don't know exactly what you mean by 'showcase', but I thought the club were unable to do more because of Sky. Is this not the case?

Are other SL clubs doing more in this regard for their fans than Wigan are?

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Quote: moto748 "I don't know exactly what you mean by 'showcase', but I thought the club were unable to do more because of Sky. Is this not the case?

Are other SL clubs doing more in this regard for their fans than Wigan are?'"


It was a typo and should have said show.

No, I don't think they are but honestly I don't 100% know. I'm sure it is down to Sky, but it's pretty pathetic when Sky don't even pick up a game.

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Covid impact

Dire dire style of play (even with a much improved result it was still terrible to watch)

No entertainment in or around the ground

No marketing of the fixture what so ever.

Think sometimes clubs take it for granted that fans will just turn up regardless

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Quote: NSW "Covid impact

Dire dire style of play (even with a much improved result it was still terrible to watch)

No entertainment in or around the ground

No marketing of the fixture what so ever.

Think sometimes clubs take it for granted that fans will just turn up regardless'"


More or less this.

I do feel that we are limping to an announcement (around October) that IL has f*cked it off and has transferred the club over to Danson. I mean when was the last time we heard anything from him (other than his half d attempt at buying the DW off Baron Greenback).

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Some supporters need to look at the present crowds of other sports instead of making a excuse that in our game, it is due to the pandemic.

And where some get the idea that another reason is due to our fan base being 60 plus is hilarious when you see supporters of all ages and both sexes in crowds at the DW Stadium.

More a case of many older supporters no longer finding the game as entertaining as a result of the constant rule changes and lack of verity in play and also not containing as many classier players and characters as there used to be in the days before RU going professional.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Some supporters need to look at the present crowds of other sports instead of making a excuse that in our game, it is due to the pandemic.'"


Yeah was watching some of the Olympics last night. Really packing the crowds in they were.

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Quote: MattyB "Yeah was watching some of the Olympics last night. Really packing the crowds in they were.'"


And I don't think you can compare the Euros and Wimbledon to a SL fixture against Wakefield.

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And a lot of people are comparing it to the Hundred in cricket but they’re literally giving tickets away. I’ve got six for a game at Old Trafford next week.

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We thought there was more than 5500 at the game. Not massively more but the announced figure did seem low.

Any number of reasons, the main one Covid. Anyone who's uncertain about the law, regulations or guidance will err on the side of caution. Wigan last week had one of the worst Covid numbers in the country. Again, anyone worried would stay away.

Then there is the rugby. At times its been utterly dreadful. We all know about injuries but often the teams main play makers have been playing. Clueless, headless chickens, disorganised are some of the words used to describe the standard of play. Lam's team selections, interchanges and game plan, or lack of are many of the reasons supporters are unhappy the way the team has been playing.

Things will improve and we will get used on how to handle Covid.
Onward and upward, Come on Wigan!

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I think the fact it looked more than 5,500 is down to the fact that we’ve seen crowds not too dissimilar to that announced as being 10/11,000 in the past. That’s because they’d count all the season ticket holders regardless of them turning up or not.

The club just seems totally uninterested in trying things to get the crowds in. I read a Wire fan saying he picked his half season tickets up the other day. Us? Nothing, no word on that being an option. I guess we’ve laid the marketing team off to save costs? It seems like we’ve laid most people off going off the lack of communication from the club, the shrinking content on social media and Wigan TV. We need a huge injection of energy from somewhere, energy and investment in the right people to push the club forward.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I think the fact it looked more than 5,500 is down to the fact that we’ve seen crowds not too dissimilar to that announced as being 10/11,000 in the past. That’s because they’d count all the season ticket holders regardless of them turning up or not.

The club just seems totally uninterested in trying things to get the crowds in. I read a Wire fan saying he picked his half season tickets up the other day. Us? Nothing, no word on that being an option. I guess we’ve laid the marketing team off to save costs? It seems like we’ve laid most people off going off the lack of communication from the club, the shrinking content on social media and Wigan TV. We need a huge injection of energy from somewhere, energy and investment in the right people to push the club forward.'"



Response this evening on Twitter from Lenagan (Not Ian but his son Simon)Hopefully this thread explains at least some of the recent @WiganWarriorsRL supporter ticketing issues. We don't make decisions everyone would agree with all the time - but at least we try and share the thinking behind them.

The background to this issue is that the Club were without our normal functioning ticket office (that we share with Wigan Athletic) due to them being in administration. We recognised a sale was imminent and that it would be...

beneficial to share a ticket office going forward - implementing our own full ticket office from scratch was simply not a sensible commercial option. Launching season tickets, with temporary staff from the former ticket office, we had limited knowledge of when fans would be...

allowed back, other than it would be 25% capacity for a period. We couldn’t leave tickets on sale indefinitely - there needed to be a period between tickets being sold on our temporary manual system and exporting those onto the new ticket office system run by the new owners of...

the stadium. With more clarity on restricted attendances, we took the view that rather than selling additional part-season tickets we would sell individual tickets for 25% capacity games to ensure we did not have to ballot and to try and maximise yields...

Attendances have obviously been disappointing, I suspect for a number of reasons - but at the time there was no evidence to suggest there was still a significant demand for season tickets. At this point, rather than selling a season ticket for the remaining 5/6 games during...

the summer holidays we are looking at creative ways to increase attendances in an affordable manner. Please understand that like many other businesses we are having to make difficult decisions far more rapidly than usual. Inevitably not all of those decisions turn out to be as...

successful as we'd like them to be. But I can assure you that they are all made with the good of the Club and the supporters at heart. Please continue to bear with us during these unprecedented times...

When the fabric of all our lives has been torn apart as it has over this last year and a half, it's so vital that we stick together as a community, as a game, and as a club. Sometimes it's all we have. Hope this helps...

'"


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