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Quote: sergeant pepper "IF he retires and we pay him off, does that then count against the cap?

I get the cap needs to safeguard against false situations created as a backdoor for getting rid of deadwood, but in this instance there's a major player welfare issue.

If paying him off does count against the cap, then it's almost forcing the club to keep trying different things. That's not good for GB and could seriously impact his long term health.

The club need to be able to strike a deal with him that, not only suits both parties financially, but also doesn't impact our cap spend too.'"


no as the medical insurance pays him off not the club

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Quote: Pieman "no as the medical insurance pays him off not the club'"


IF the insurance pay up on a pre existing injury.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "IF the insurance pay up on a pre existing injury.'"


course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.

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Quote: Pieman "course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.'"


I never said he hasn't got insurance, I just doubt how easy it will be to get a payout on a pre-existing injury. Much like every other type of insurance people get.

Most life insurance policies either refuse cover, or push up the premium to cover even the smallest existing condition. Why would a sports insurer be different, especially seeing the risk of injury is greatly increased?

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I never said he hasn't got insurance, I just doubt how easy it will be to get a payout on a pre-existing injury. Much like every other type of insurance people get.

Most life insurance policies either refuse cover, or push up the premium to cover even the smallest existing condition. Why would a sports insurer be different, especially seeing the risk of injury is greatly increased?'"


I know but thats like saying manfredi cant get a payout on his knee if he retired die to it, he was given a new contract with it so would ne not be covered? Dont think sports insurance works like that. Sam Burgess was paid off and he has his shoulder issues for 10 years

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Quote: Pieman "course they will, he has to be fully insured, its part of the stipulations for a professional sports club.'"


Nope. Not insured for pre existing injuries

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Think you are all jumping the gun. Looked like Wigan are being patient and trying to diagnose the problem properly.
He would have to take voluntary retirement to get him off the books....

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Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World'"


what proof have you got of this?

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Of course the club will support him as they will never admit that they had made a mistake in signing a player on reputation with no checks on any injury or fitness.

A total embarrassment for the club in the eyes of the Rugby League World'"


Burgess had and passed a medical before he signed for Wigan.

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Quote: Steph Curry "Nope. Not insured for pre existing injuries'"


but Sam Burgess was...funny that

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Quote: The pieman "what proof have you got of this?'"



Oooohh ooh ooh!
I think 8 know the answer to this one

Is it "None"?

(Just like he had no proof that all the staff at leigh knew they'd got un SL before either was announced, when corrected never to be seen on that thread again.)

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Quote: Pieman "but Sam Burgess was...funny that'"


Shame on you!
Replying to that mon! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jukesays "Shame on you!
Replying to that mon!
sorry pal, well done on your win icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Pieman "but Sam Burgess was...funny that'"


This reads like it was a different injury to his other shoulder issues...

rlhttps://www.nrl.com/news/2019/12/06/souths-have-cash-to-splash-after-burgess-retirement-declared-salary-cap-exempt/rl

Quote: Pieman "The NRL found Burgess's career-ending injury was not pre-existing and had occurred during the course of his current contract which was due to end in 2023, meaning the club was permitted to be granted salary cap relief'"
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