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Quote: Trainman "Joel deserves whatever he gets. I thought the criticism of MM was way OTT. It was without doubt a penalty but it wasn’t a high swinging arm, Dwyer was going down. I know others will disagree but I thought it was unfortunate rather than careless or reckless.'"


I agree. A sin bin would have been adequate though. Unfortunately the lack of action by the on field ref will only encourage the disciplinary to be more harsh when it comes to punishment.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I must’ve been watching a different incident with Micky Mac, I thought it was a shocker, a definite red and it should be a ban of at least a couple of games.

I mean compare that to Ben Flowers two game ban for tackling a man but daring to lift himself a centimetre off the floor for 0.1 seconds. Brad Dwyer ended up an absolute mess on the back of it. I’d also compare it to Greenwood’s and say it was worse. Greenwood’s was just daft, he clearly meant it but it was a love tap in comparison and was never going to do a great deal of damage'"

Agree with all of that. Mickey definitely went high and didn't miss. Amazing he stayed on the field. Definite ban coming.

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Quote: Ashton Bears "Tom Davis turning out to be a good signing for Catalans'"


He was always going to once fit - great player. Didnt want us to release him but understood it as he wanted guaranteed game time.

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Quote: Trainman "Joel deserves whatever he gets. I thought the criticism of MM was way OTT. It was without doubt a penalty but it wasn’t a high swinging arm, Dwyer was going down. I know others will disagree but I thought it was unfortunate rather than careless or reckless.'"


Really? It was a clear closed fist with intent, thuggery at its finest and he should of walked for that, attempting to then pick the injured player off the ground was also uncalled for.

As expected the sky commentary team did their best to defend him but it was a shocker imo.

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Quote: dany1979 "
As expected the sky commentary team did their best to defend him but it was a shocker imo.'"


If he’s still a Wigan player and he does that, the reaction is totally different. I’ve been flabbergasted these past couple of months at just how down the Sky commentary team are on Wigan. I’m not one for believing there is any great deal of bias from them to one team or another usually but it’s been embarrassing these last few weeks. I think the fact that a lot of them have previous connections to Wigan and with that can come accusations of bias has made them go overboard the other way.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



McIlorum had a swinging arm and made direct contact with the head. How that wasn’t a red card I found shocking, no penalty either!

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So what do we think our line up will be: Id go:

Fench
Bibby
Zak
Gilly
Budgy
Tommy
Jacko
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Powell
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Isa
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Partington

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Wouldnt play Lockers, Manfredi is back this week isnt he?

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Quote: Pieman "Wouldnt play Lockers, Manfredi is back this week isnt he?'"


He’s struggling with his knee and looks unlikely to play according to Lam in the week.

Lockers will play and I would play him but only from the bench.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He’s struggling with his knee and looks unlikely to play according to Lam in the week.

Lockers will play and I would play him but only from the bench.'"


Id probably be looking to release him if hes still out with his knee, good player on his day but its never his day anymore

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Quote: Pieman "Id probably be looking to release him if hes still out with his knee, good player on his day but its never his day anymore'"


You can't just release players that are under contract.

Not necessarily aimed at you, but it's a pretty simple thing to understand and it's exactly the same with Burgess too.

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Quote: Pieman "Id probably be looking to release him if hes still out with his knee, good player on his day but its never his day anymore'"


It sounds a pretty minor issue with there being a bit of floating bone causing him discomfort. It would be a quick op and back in 2-3 weeks but they’ve not got that time now.

He’s played enough games this year to not worry me too much but I do think it’s asking for trouble next season if we rely on his availability too much. Over time, I could see Manfredi doing a Willie Isa (who was a winger at the start of his career) and move in to the forwards. He’s shown this year he’s still freakishly strong, he’s tough, brave and defends with real aggression but his pace does look to have dropped.

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Quote: dany1979 "Really? It was a clear closed fist with intent, thuggery at its finest and he should of walked for that, attempting to then pick the injured player off the ground was also uncalled for.

As expected the sky commentary team did their best to defend him but it was a shocker imo.'"


Yes, really. I appreciate the differences of opinion and if the disciplinary decide to ban him fair enough, I won’t agree with it. For me, if Dwyer wasn’t in the process of being tackled he would have made contact fair and square across the chest. The fact he was in the process of going down and IMO MM was already committed he made direct contact with the head. In any circumstances that should have been a penalty but for me there is enough mitigation not to ban him.

It should be said I was pleased to see Dwyer carry on and no serious damage was caused.

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Quote: Trainman "Yes, really. I appreciate the differences of opinion and if the disciplinary decide to ban him fair enough, I won’t agree with it. For me, if Dwyer wasn’t in the process of being tackled he would have made contact fair and square across the chest. The fact he was in the process of going down and IMO MM was already committed he made direct contact with the head. In any circumstances that should have been a penalty but for me there is enough mitigation not to ban him.

It should be said I was pleased to see Dwyer carry on and no serious damage was caused.'"


Take the tackle away and he deserves a ban for trying to drag him back to his feet. He knows by that point he’s smacked him in the face, Dwyer had blood pouring from his nose/mouth and he does that?! Really poor. There’s no bigger fan of Micky Mac than me and I’d probably view the incident with biased eyes had he done it in a Wigan shirt but it was ordinary. There are two bans in the incident for me. How he could avoid one when you compare it to some of the pathetic bans handed out recently, is beyond me.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Take the tackle away and he deserves a ban for trying to drag him back to his feet. He knows by that point he’s smacked him in the face, Dwyer had blood pouring from his nose/mouth and he does that?! Really poor. There’s no bigger fan of Micky Mac than me and I’d probably view the incident with biased eyes had he done it in a Wigan shirt but it was ordinary. There are two bans in the incident for me. How he could avoid one when you compare it to some of the pathetic bans handed out recently, is beyond me.'"


I would be at all surprised if he gets a ban I just don’t think it warrants one. I agree about the lifting him up afterwards, that was in called for.

Also agree about the pathetic bans recently handed out. There are a few players the disciplinary seem to give a ban to just for the fun of it, MM is one, Flower is another.

If we compare it to Greenwood recently the difference between the two is huge. I just think when you are committed and another player makes contact causing the attacker to start to go to ground that has to be taken into consideration. It is impossible to pull out or change your trajectory in a split second.

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