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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "It won't happen but the club's greatest financial interest would be served by selecting all the fans who have asked for a refund (probably around not more than 1,000 given the %s stated by clubs). The refunds will be based on games they can't attend, so the more games they get them into, the more of their ticket money they can keep.'"


Valid point

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "It won't happen but the club's greatest financial interest would be served by selecting all the fans who have asked for a refund (probably around not more than 1,000 given the %s stated by clubs). The refunds will be based on games they can't attend, so the more games they get them into, the more of their ticket money they can keep.'"


Very true but like you say I doubt they’ll do it as it would be a PR disaster. They also won’t charge people to attend who’ve already said they can keep any refund but I would gladly let them keep all the money laid out for my season ticket and then pay £25 for a ticket for this game to help the clubs coffers. Again though they won’t do that as it’ll cause mayhem. Having just a thousand people in will probably cost money in the end.

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It would be a shame if the process of allowing spectators back in was delayed, as our game needs supporters even more than they need the game.

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Watching the news this morning there’s a strong suggestion that the crowd pilots will be suspended indefinitely for all sports. I think we have to resign ourselves to no fans until next season.

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Yeah, extremely doubtful we’ll see any crowds this year. Watching the big games on TV will be weird but what needs to be done needs to be done I suppose.

Plenty of clubs will be terrified after hearing this news.

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Quote: Trainman "Watching the news this morning there’s a strong suggestion that the crowd pilots will be suspended indefinitely for all sports. I think we have to resign ourselves to no fans until next season.'"

Have to agree with you they do seem,if the press is to be believed at 6 month timeframe for restrictions to be in place for sad but there you go

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The game is dying a slow death

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Gone but entirely predictable IMO. We’re going to see some more Toronto’s, I just wonder if those calling for them to go will say the same about other SL sides in the same predicament....

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I went to a few that year, the opener at Cardiff, one at Leigh, one at Wire, the semi at Wembley and then my favourite Ireland v Australia in Limerick, what a good weekend that was.
Let's face it you've got twelve months to save/plan. Save your after 10 beer money and support the game, although I have a feeling the tournament may get pushed back twelve months.

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The present situation of clubs not playing home games at their own grounds and at different grounds has made the our game a farce, especially when you see all the football clubs are playing their home games at their own grounds, even the Latics who are in administration are playing at the DW Stadium.

And why play the Challenge Cup Final at a massive Wembley Stadium with no crowd when it might as well be played in the North Of England at a Stadium with a smaller capacity. In 1932, the final could not be held at Wembley and was played at Swinton, but at least there was a crowd.

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I don’t understand why I’ll be able to go to the pub and watch the game in a small cramped room but I won’t be able to go to a game in a large open air stadium distant from others. It’s utterly ludicrous and signs the death warrants for many sporting clubs up and down the country

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "The present situation of clubs not playing home games at their own grounds and at different grounds has made the our game a farce, especially when you see all the football clubs are playing their home games at their own grounds, even the Latics who are in administration are playing at the DW Stadium.

And why play the Challenge Cup Final at a massive Wembley Stadium with no crowd when it might as well be played in the North Of England at a Stadium with a smaller capacity. In 1932, the final could not be held at Wembley and was played at Swinton, but at least there was a crowd.'"
A predictably ill informed rant.
Firstly consolidating league games means Sky are able to show most or all of the games as the incremental costs of deploying teams of crew to all grounds would not be feasible - in turn clubs would struggle to offer any sort of quality coverage for season ticket holders. Likewise most clubs still have a lot of staff furloughed so reopening their stadia will cost a fair amount of money, added to which are the costs of making those stadia covid safe.

The RFL has a contract with Wembley and agreed to play the game there when fans were expected to be present. Ripping that up would no doubt cost a lot more than going ahead with it.

It all comes down to what is the most cost effective way of of completing the season and meeting the requirements of the tv contracts which will enable our clubs the best chance of surviving this. Comparing to football is really pretty pointless.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: 100% Warrior "I don’t understand why I’ll be able to go to the pub and watch the game in a small cramped room but I won’t be able to go to a game in a large open air stadium distant from others. It’s utterly ludicrous and signs the death warrants for many sporting clubs up and down the country'"

I think the big issue is when everyone is leaving. At a pub people generally leave at a staggered time (even with the 22:00 curfew, not everyone will leave at that time) whereas at the rugby, pretty much all 12,000 or so will leave at the same time. Think what the steps, concourse, just outside the stadium and the bridge over the canal are like at full time. Likewise the toilets and beer queues at half time. That's a lot worse than any pub (particularly with table service in place).

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Quote: Grimmy "I think the big issue is when everyone is leaving. At a pub people generally leave at a staggered time (even with the 22

And everyone arriving around the same time. All needs to be staggered.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Egg Chasing "And everyone arriving around the same time. All needs to be staggered.'"

Yeah i think some staggering naturally happens when people arrive, I can see how that could be managed with advance warnings that it will take longer than usual for people to go in, stewards ensuring people distance whilst queueing to get in, and don't hang around on the concourse once they are in (might have to close the kiosks to help this) and outside you have unlimited space to queue in.

It's leaving where I think the issue would be, you have a lot less space and a lot more people wanting to be in the same place at the same time. You have to let them access the toilets on the concourse so you either let them leave as normal, resulting in crowds on the stairs and concourse, or you limit the amount that leave at a time, which would probably mean people are crowding on the concourse and steps inside the stadium for longer. Plus you'll get people who will just not do as they're told when leaving, the threat of being kicked out isn't a big deal if you want to leave anyway and have a train/bus to catch or whatever. A lot of our stewards don't exactly put the fear of God into you either.

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