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Quote: Wigg'n "Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking.

African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011.
Poverty has been declining since 2013.
Etc.


Three newspapers
Three newspapers/newsagency which have always been a thorn in every Republican Presidents side.

A bit like the Daily Mirror and the Guardian here with a Conservative Prime Minister.

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Quote: post "To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.

Politics and sport shouldn't mix.

I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.'"


You won't be missed.

You expect players who want to kneel to not kneel because it doesn't match with your own personal political beliefs but similarly expect those who choose to not kneel to be above question. You are a complete hypocrite.

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Why do so many people miss the point that "taking a knee" is not the same as kneeling before someone?

I can only assume that it is deliberate.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Three newspapers
Three newspapers/newsagency which have always been a thorn in every Republican Presidents side.

A bit like the Daily Mirror and the Guardian here with a Conservative Prime Minister.'"


Fact checking is a 'thorn in the side'? icon_lol.gif Ok.

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Quote: secondstanza "You won't be missed.

You expect players who want to kneel to not kneel because it doesn't match with your own personal political beliefs but similarly expect those who choose to not kneel to be above question. You are a complete hypocrite.'"


Who are you to say who will and won't be missed?

Every fan who fails to turn up for a game will be missed, or fails to put money into the club is missed.

The club should have stayed out of identity politics. What next? A little bagde to be worn on the sleeve to say they voted remain, or voted Labour?

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Quote: post "Who are you to say who will and won't be missed?

Every fan who fails to turn up for a game will be missed, or fails to put money into the club is missed.

The club should have stayed out of identity politics.'"

So should the various countries sports bodies have "stayed out" of politics and let South Africa carry on with their racist policies?
Ask Billy Boston what he thought of what happened to him on the 1954 tour that was returning and playing an exhibition game in South Africa.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "So should the various countries sports bodies have "stayed out" of politics and let South Africa carry on with their racist policies?
Ask Billy Boston what he thought of what happened to him on the 1954 tour that was returning and playing an exhibition game in South Africa.'"


Should the England football team Sieg Heiled before a game with Germany in the 1930s?

Did the teams playing sport against South Africa do a certain gesture to support the Apartheid movement or just play sport, or is that supporting it?

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: FearTheVee "Why do so many people miss the point that "taking a knee" is not the same as kneeling before someone?

I can only assume that it is deliberate.'"

Of course it is. They don't like it because it's not about them, or people like them. That's not an acceptable problem to have with it though so they look for other issues.

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Quote: Grimmy "Of course it is. They don't like it because it's not about them, or people like them. That's not an acceptable problem to have with it though so they look for other issues.'"


I think people would be the same if there was a group promoting white power and pressuring sports team to support them or face their wrath.

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Quote: post "I think people would be the same if there was a group promoting white power and pressuring sports team to support them or face their wrath.'"


Who has pressured anyone into anything aside from possibly the media?

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Quote: post "To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.

Politics and sport shouldn't mix.

I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.'"


*waves*

Offiah, and 3 young black players "this isn't about politics, this is about what we personally have endured"

Person on the Internet "well I obviously know better than the people living it, sports and politics shouldn't mix!"

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Quote: post "Did the teams playing sport against South Africa do a certain gesture to support the Apartheid movement or just play sport, or is that supporting it?'"


Well the cricket teams that played against them did it for financial gain at the cost of their actual International career so maybe they stood there and counted their cash?

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Who has pressured anyone into anything aside from possibly the media?'"


Sky Sports seem to be pushing the agenda heavily so I'd hazard a guess at them.

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Quote: Angelus "*waves*

Offiah, and 3 young black players "this isn't about politics, this is about what we personally have endured"

Person on the Internet "well I obviously know better than the people living it, sports and politics shouldn't mix!"'"


The whole identity politics quagmire is one I don't fancy getting in to, because no matter what you say to challenge a certain view or point, there is a term used against you which shuts down the argument. From my view if some reasonable person starts asking questions with a genuine curiosity because they're labelled a gammon, or a Karen, or a moron.

Its such a divisive and sensitive issue that separates people and sets them to argue, and this is why politics and sport shouldn't mix.

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