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Quote: Egg Chasing "I thought Thaler was terrible. Managed to slow down a game that has a million rules aimed at speeding it up.'"


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Quote: NSW "I thought it was, but exactly the same today, we were crying out for some direction.'"


He was excellent 1st half at Salford and same again today. Also the same today though was that we made plenty yards first half and then not as many second half.

Not sure if it's a fitness thing or too many kids in key positions, but I fear that so far we will be the same as last season and will lose all of the big games.

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Quote: apollosghost "Same level of performance as the HKR/Salford games, pretty poor to say the least.
Not sure why we've gone backwards since Hudds away.'"

The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).

Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.

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Quote: NSW "The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).

Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.'"


I was amazed by his reaction at full time. I hope it was just a show for the cameras and in the dressing rooms some harsh words were said because it wasn’t good enough by a long way.

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Quote: NSW "The worry for me is Lam seems made up with these wins (KR and Today).

Imagine Wanes reaction if we served up that today under him.'"


Let's not beat around the bush - we had plenty of these kind of results served up under Wane. He instead used to regurgitate the same "tough week in training" line, but week to week we saw very little change until it came to the playoffs.

We've not had a coach who demanded weekly excellence since Madge.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I was amazed by his reaction at full time. I hope it was just a show for the cameras and in the dressing rooms some harsh words were said because it wasn’t good enough by a long way.'"


I was amazed as well, it does nothing for my confidence in him. It was a below par performance for the most part with glimpses of a decent side.

I’ll have it’s the first game back after a few months out but you look at the way Saints started last week and now they’re taking apart this Leeds side, who themselves are bang average, and I question whether that’s even a viable excuse.

Next week v Leeds will show what we really are IMO.

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Quote: jonh "Few thoughts, firstly lowest quality game of the restart so far.

Both teams making some bad errors and poor decisions.

The main concern for me was out attack which was very flat. At time’s our strike runners were ahead of the ball carrier who was looking to find them.

Thought Zak had a great game but I’d still rather he play centre with French at 1 as teams can really go at French in the line on the wing.

Manfreddi worked hard but for me the centre position isn’t for him.

Was impressed with Clarke when he came on, looked like he wanted to make an impact and did. Burgess didn’t really put his hand up and that is a worry.

End of sets was poor, won’t have helped losing TL but Smith or Hastings needed to be more dominant.

I thought Powell was great, huge in D at critical times, I would still like to see Amir Bourouh on the bench. The new system cries out for an explosive 9 and that isn’t Powell.

Positives again were the youngsters and the 2 points.

Harvard in particular I thought was great.

Tactics....not sure they worked today.

Back to the drawing board Mr Lam.'"


Think you’ve hit the nail on the head with that assessment. It’s the fact Lam either doesn’t see it or refuses to accept it which is worrying me. Looking at how Saints are playing now, if we’d have played them today we’d be talking 40+.

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First game back, missing Gildart, Lockers, Flower and Partington, plus Leuluai for a lot of the game. I'll take any kind of win. Agreed Saints look a different class to everyone else though, as they did last year.

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Typical Wigan. Get ourselves into a winning lead 22-6 with 60 minutes gone & then our game management just goes out the window. How many times have we seen it? Under Wane too I might add.

Just happy to get the 2 points
Tom Johnstone's try was special. Brilliant player

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I was amazed as well, it does nothing for my confidence in him. It was a below par performance for the most part with glimpses of a decent side.

I’ll have it’s the first game back after a few months out but you look at the way Saints started last week and now they’re taking apart this Leeds side, who themselves are bang average, and I question whether that’s even a viable excuse.

Next week v Leeds will show what we really are IMO.'"


Well if we don't murder this Leeds side then it's time to wrap up.

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Quote: Grimmy "First game back, missing Gildart, Lockers, Flower and Partington, plus Leuluai for a lot of the game. I'll take any kind of win. Agreed Saints look a different class to everyone else though, as they did last year.'"


They’ve struck gold with the break. The players have had time to get over the loss of Holbrook, the international tour and the WCC. It’s been a reset for them clearly and they’ll be tough to stop. I don’t think we’ve got the coach to challenge them tbh.

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48-0!

Yes, we need to beat Leeds convincingly.

Plenty of room for improvement, but two points is two points.

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Quote: moto748 "48-0!

Yes, we need to beat Leeds convincingly.

Plenty of room for improvement, but two points is two points.'"


Yes, lots of room for improvement.
I wish we had Watson as coach. It’s amazing what he repeatedly does at Salford, despite losing his best players every year.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Let's not beat around the bush - we had plenty of these kind of results served up under Wane. He instead used to regurgitate the same "tough week in training" line, but week to week we saw very little change until it came to the playoffs.

We've not had a coach who demanded weekly excellence since Madge.'"


Yep and that is what infuriated me at the time.

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Quote: Salty "Yes, lots of room for improvement.
I wish we had Watson as coach. It’s amazing what he repeatedly does at Salford, despite losing his best players every year.'"

Was thinking the same watching there game, gets the most out of players mostly unwanted by other clubs. What would he do with a squad with more resources.

Liked some of the set moves Salford ran today.

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