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Quote: The_Enforcer "How many times have we heard you say that about young players?

Wasnt Ryan Hampshire going to be the next Andrew Johns at one point?'"


he never got a chance to be

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Quote: MattyB "That Sam Tomkins fella did okay didn't he?
That Farrell lad who has played a few games for us these past ten years, he's pretty good?
Or what about that Gildart boy? Or the even younger Marshall kid, he's not bad either.

Then there's young Williams who's bagged himself an NRL contract along with that Ryan Sutton lad?

Then there's Manfredi before he unluckily got himself seriously injured.


I could go on........'"


Burgess and Powell

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: The_Enforcer "How many times have we heard you say that about young players?'"

I've literally never heard anyone say that about our academy forwards. It's been a constant area of weakness that we have never produced quality props IMO.

Quote: The_Enforcer "Wasnt Ryan Hampshire going to be the next Andrew Johns at one point?'"

I don't know about the attitude stuff but I do think he is/was talented enough to have been a real star by now at Wigan. Wakey rate him.

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Quote: Grimmy "I've literally never heard anyone say that about our academy forwards. It's been a constant area of weakness that we have never produced quality props IMO.

I don't know about the attitude stuff but I do think he is/was talented enough to have been a real star by now at Wigan. Wakey rate him.'"


Similar to what happened to Corey Hall.

Played at centre in the Academy team for most of the season and then dropped for the end of season games including the Semi Finals and Final for a new player called Holt (any connection to Holt's Injury Update which appeared around the same time).

Left the club, signed by Leeds and now part of their first team squad and just been selected for the England Academy Performance Squad.

Now wonder the lad left the club after being treated like that!

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: Rogues Gallery "We've got the best young forward pack coming through that I have ever seen at Wigan!!'"


I don’t mean the young lads!!! I mean the older established forwards we sign.

Pettybourne, Tautai, Navarette, Nua’asala, Clubb, Lauaki, Hopkins, Larne Patrick.

Whoever it is who is scouting these players are picking duds. It’s a lot easier to scout young players because they cast their net far and wide. Sign a boat load of good kids and release the ones you don’t want, in a process of elimination.

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Quote: post "I don’t mean the young lads!!! I mean the older established forwards we sign.

Pettybourne, Tautai, Navarette, Nua’asala, Clubb, Lauaki, Hopkins, Larne Patrick.

Whoever it is who is scouting these players are picking duds. It’s a lot easier to scout young players because they cast their net far and wide. Sign a boat load of good kids and release the ones you don’t want, in a process of elimination.'"


Larne Patrick...Jesus wept

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Quote: Grimmy "
I don't know about the attitude stuff but I do think he is/was talented enough to have been a real star by now at Wigan. Wakey rate him.'"


I thought they'd let him go ....reconsidered, and then re-signed him?

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Quote: nikos "I thought they'd let him go ....reconsidered, and then re-signed him?'"


I think it was more of his demands. Thought he could get better elsewhere, no-one offered it to him, went back to Wakey

I could be very wrong about that though

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Quote: MattyB "Ryan Hampshire could have been anything he wanted to be by now, playing at a top club and winning trophies had it not been for rank bad advice with silly demands being whispered into his ears by those closest to him.'"


Absolutely. Spent years at Wigan claiming he's not a fullback only to end up playing fullback and even being shoved on the wing for Wakey

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Quote: [Gareth] ""I think it was more of his demands. Thought he could get better elsewhere, no-one offered it to him, went back to Wakey

I could be very wrong about that though'"


And that probably sums his career up

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Absolutely. Spent years at Wigan claiming he's not a fullback only to end up playing fullback and even being shoved on the wing for Wakey'"



Exactly. I'm sure he sometimes thinks back...... If only, if only, if only.

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Quote: MattyB "That Sam Tomkins fella did okay didn't he?
That Farrell lad who has played a few games for us these past ten years, he's pretty good?
Or what about that Gildart boy? Or the even younger Marshall kid, he's not bad either.

Then there's young Williams who's bagged himself an NRL contract along with that Ryan Sutton lad?

Then there's Manfredi before he unluckily got himself seriously injured.


I could go on........'"


Your point?

Nobody said we've not produced some good young players. My post was in reference to Rogues. He says every crop of young players coming through are going to be world beaters.

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Quote: Pieman "he never got a chance to be'"


Hes had years at Wakefield. I dont see many top clubs queuing up for his signature.

Do you think we should bring him back to Wigan?

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Your point?

Nobody said we've not produced some good young players. My post was in reference to Rogues. He says every crop of young players coming through are going to be world beaters.'"


World Beaters? Put your money where you mouth is then and quote him where he's stated that.

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Quote: MattyB "Exactly. I'm sure he sometimes thinks back...... If only, if only, if only.'"

I think Hampshire got confused by the change of emphasis on the role of players. The old school remember the half backs as being the playmaking maestros just as we have with Hastings again today. Hampshire came through when the emphasis as playmaker was being shifted to the fullback. By the time he would have got his chance in his favoured position he had already been loaned out.

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