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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "I get the medical aspects of it, im just wondering why there are not any cases of ex RL players with brain damage since this rule is is fairly recent.'"
I think only time will tell and when the lawyers come sniffing around in 10/20/30 years time the RFL cam say ‘As soon as we were made aware of CTE and he dangers of sequential concussions, we put these steps into place to prevent it’.
I’ve played rugby, football and boxed and heading a football and getting punched in the head are worse than anything I got in rugby apart from clash of heads a couple of times throughout the years.
Heading a football and getting punched in the head happens a lot more in those sports including training. I’d say both were worse for the noggin than rugby.
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| Quote: post "I think only time will tell and when the lawyers come sniffing around in 10/20/30 years time the RFL cam say ‘As soon as we were made aware of CTE and he dangers of sequential concussions, we put these steps into place to prevent it’.
I’ve played rugby, football and boxed and heading a football and getting punched in the head are worse than anything I got in rugby apart from clash of heads a couple of times throughout the years.
Heading a football and getting punched in the head happens a lot more in those sports including training. I’d say both were worse for the noggin than rugby.'"
I’ve been knocked out cold playing rugby 4 times in 25yrs of playing prop forward - I tended to put my head in places it shouldn’t go - and predictably ended up with concussion on each occasion. This was back in the days of shoving smelling salts up your nostril or throwing cold water over you to wake you up, quick jog to warm up and back on again.
I didn’t know the risks, not many did. It’s possible I may well suffer myself in years to come. I bloody well hope not but the more we can do now to alleviate any risks to the players the better.
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| I can imagine some of our younger players having that edge to them, they aren't used to losing games in a Wigan shirt even if it's been at academy level.
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Looks terrible to me.
Budgy is finished as a top class winger. He has become lazy, looks lethargic, runs sideways more than forwards and has lost his speed which was what made him a great winger. He should be nowhere near the team once Manfredi and Davies are fit.'"
I think he needs a kick up the backside and also needs to get his head in gear as to what he actually wants as a professional rugby league player. His head was turned and off he went to the NRL. He couldn’t cut it there because he hadn’t the experience. He went two or three years before he should have done. He has lost a bit of speed but is still pretty quick. No way should he be finished at the top. He requires a coach who can motivate him and the rest is up to him.
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| Quote: Darwen Warrior "I think he needs a kick up the backside and also needs to get his head in gear as to what he actually wants as a professional rugby league player. His head was turned and off he went to the NRL. He couldn’t cut it there because he hadn’t the experience. He went two or three years before he should have done. He has lost a bit of speed but is still pretty quick. No way should he be finished at the top. He requires a coach who can motivate him and the rest is up to him.'"
Problem with budgie is that he has the turning circle of an oil tanker, he’s fine in a clear run to the line but that’s it
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| With Toronto reaching SL they will no doubt be looking to strengthen prior to the start of the season.
I wonder if IL will be looking to move on any of our players during the off season?
Escare, Budgie maybe?
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| Quote: MattyB "With Toronto reaching SL they will no doubt be looking to strengthen prior to the start of the season.
I wonder if IL will be looking to move on any of our players during the off season?
Escare, Budgie maybe?'"
Both of these plus Clubb, Flower & Navarette would be decent signings for Toronto. I’m sure if they asked nicely, most Wigan fans would have a whip around for the flight cost, to get them off the books.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Quote: MattyB "With Toronto reaching SL they will no doubt be looking to strengthen prior to the start of the season.
I wonder if IL will be looking to move on any of our players during the off season?
Escare, Budgie maybe?'"
I think Budgies problem is between his ears, a good coach would get him back to his best, his problem isn’t physical it’s mental.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "More rubbish.'"
Hmm, like your contributions then.
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "I get the medical aspects of it, im just wondering why there are not any cases of ex RL players with brain damage since this rule is is fairly recent.'"
Because of the increased fitness/muscle mass of players these days i would suspect that the collision speed/impacts are harder. Plus with us now living in a blame/claim culture people are more worried about such cliams.
Just a thought.
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Big Steve wrote:
The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
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If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: MOUSE13 "Because of the increased fitness/muscle mass of players these days i would suspect that the collision speed/impacts are harder. Plus with us now living in a blame/claim culture people are more worried about such cliams.
Just a thought.'"
Nail on head, so to speak.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| The Joe Burgess and Clubb re-signings are criminal IMO.
Ever since he said “he’d like another crack at the NRL” we should have been trying to move Burgess on. Shadow of the player he was at 19.
If we lose Davies to Leeds but keep burgess for a year that would be criminal.
Clubb looks finished.
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| Quote: MOUSE13 "Because of the increased fitness/muscle mass of players these days i would suspect that the collision speed/impacts are harder. Plus with us now living in a blame/claim culture people are more worried about such cliams.
Just a thought.'"
But we have taken away shoulder charges which were regularly used to knock an opposition player to kingdom come. The game has never been more sterile IMO.
Is it time RL players were forced to wear helmets like the NRL?
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "But we have taken away shoulder charges which were regularly used to knock an opposition player to kingdom come. The game has never been more sterile IMO.
Is it time RL players were forced to wear helmets like the NRL?'"
It could well come to helmets in the end..once a lawyer gets a case together than games such as rugby are very much in the firing line,sterile it may be but it’s the future,our blame everyone else culture you have to thank for it too.
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Quote: The_Enforcer "Because of the increased fitness/muscle mass of players these days i would suspect that the collision speed/impacts are harder. Plus with us now living in a blame/claim culture people are more worried about such cliams.
Just a thought.'"
But we have taken away shoulder charges which were regularly used to knock an opposition player to kingdom come. The game has never been more sterile IMO.
Is it time RL players were forced to wear helmets like the NRL?'"
Not sure if you're a troll or just chatting BS because of 'bro science' syndrome.
If you'd read any of the research on CTE in sport (especially the stuff related to the NFL) then you'd realise the helmets provide no protection from concussions.
Why engage or bring up a topic if you haven't read up on the science behind it?
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