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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Cap only counts the first 25 players, so only 23 players to go!'"
As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts.
If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc. |
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Quote: Egg Chasing "As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts.
If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc.'"
When calculating bonuses for salary cap, the cap assumes a number of appearances based on the base salary. Players earning under 20k are assumed to play 5 games a year, those over, 18. ( https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=283 section 5.6.3).
At some clubs, young players may have one time payrises in their contracts for debut/ first 10 games/ whatever, which would take them into the top 25 earners. This isn’t regulated by the cap, which is why some teams manage to get themselves in the position where they can’t play certain young players. |
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Quote: Egg Chasing "As far as I understand it that is only for their actual base salary but I'll stand corrected. Any appearance fees count and should a player exempt from the cap for being on less than 20k or under 21 play a certain number of games their whole salary then counts.
If appearances and bonuses didn't count you would just pay everyone peanuts for their basic salary and then pump them with bonuses etc.'"
When calculating bonuses for salary cap, the cap assumes a number of appearances based on the base salary. Players earning under 20k are assumed to play 5 games a year, those over, 18. ( https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=283 section 5.6.3).
At some clubs, young players may have one time payrises in their contracts for debut/ first 10 games/ whatever, which would take them into the top 25 earners. This isn’t regulated by the cap, which is why some teams manage to get themselves in the position where they can’t play certain young players. | |
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The game is dying a slow death
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| Quote: Mash Butty "it's almost 2006 again, we had an offloading Sculthorpe and got a proper prop in Fielden, so now we need a proper 6, 7, 9,10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17'"
And how did Fielden get on for us?  Haven't a clue how you think Flower, Greenwood and Farrell aren't good enough for us. They would get into any team in SL easily. |
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Yes I'd take those 3 at Warrington but Greenwood and Flower would start on the bench. I'd have put Farrell ahead of Currie on recent form only so grudgingly I'd play him ahead of Hughes.
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| Quote: Grimmy "And how did Fielden get on for us? ![]()
I don't think they would get into the Saints team. Flower & Farrell's both give good effort but their best days are behind them. Greenwood couldn't even deal with Fages in the saints match. Fielden did OK didn't he, unless you think he didn't?
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| Quote: Mash Butty "I don't think they would get into the Saints team. Flower & Farrell's both give good effort but their best days are behind them. Greenwood couldn't even deal with Fages in the saints match. Fielden did OK didn't he, unless you think he didn't?'"
Short memory mate? Saints couldn’t cope with Greenwood at their place in the Super 8s last year and if you’d rather see Peyroux or Zeb Taia ahead of Greenwood the we have very different opinions on back rowers. The difference this season is that their entire team is playing well together and ours isn’t. Individually, Greenwood is a better 2nd rower than either of those mentioned. |
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| Quote: Grimmy "And how did Fielden get on for us? ![]()
How did Fielden get on for us? In 2006 absolutely fantastic. I will never forget him geeing up the fans in the east stand on his home debut. Him and the signing of Dobson along with Noble as coach saved us from relegation. Why do you think Fielden was signed? To annoy Brian Noble or on his recommendation?
As to Flower, Greenwood and Faz of those three only one would interest other top teams and it is Greenwood.
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| Quote: DaveO "How did Fielden get on for us? In 2006 absolutely fantastic. I will never forget him geeing up the fans in the east stand on his home debut. Him and the signing of Dobson along with Noble as coach saved us from relegation. Why do you think Fielden was signed? To annoy Brian Noble or on his recommendation?
As to Flower, Greenwood and Faz of those three only one would interest other top teams and it is Greenwood.'"
Cheated from relegation you mean. |
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Cheated from relegation you mean.'"
Of course.... We are the best and most consistent cheats in the land!!! |
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| Quote: Mash Butty "I don't think they would get into the Saints team. Flower & Farrell's both give good effort but their best days are behind them. Greenwood couldn't even deal with Fages in the saints match. Fielden did OK didn't he, unless you think he didn't?'"
Fielden was great for his first 10 games for us, then terrible/injured for 3 years, then improved to average for his last year. Having his massive wage on the cap was a massive millstone around the club's neck for years which postponed our rise to glory IMO. The most underperforming Wigan signing in living memory, and we're using him as an example of why the club should be opening the cheque book! |
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| Quote: Grimmy "Fielden was great for his first 10 games for us, then terrible/injured for 3 years, then improved to average for his last year. Having his massive wage on the cap was a massive milestone around the club's neck for years which postponed our rise to glory IMO. The most underperforming Wigan signing in living memory, and we're using him as an example of why the club should be opening the cheque book! ![]()
Let’s be honest though, Fielden was left to do the hard work either on his own or alongside Coley. Feka was impact and did one good run a game and we had very young props in Prescott, O’Carroll and Mossop. When Fielden was at Bradford he had other props to lighten the load.
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We had Fielden at a real tough time in his personal life and it affected his performances. In 2010 he was superb IMO.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Fielden was great for his first 10 games for us, then terrible/injured for 3 years, then improved to average for his last year. Having his massive wage on the cap was a massive millstone around the club's neck for years which postponed our rise to glory IMO. The most underperforming Wigan signing in living memory, and we're using him as an example of why the club should be opening the cheque book! ![]()
I would say that title goes to Nigel Wright with 36 appearances in 5 season compared to Fieldens 139 in 6 seasons with Manfredi coming in second place
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| Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "I would say that title goes to Nigel Wright with 36 appearances in 5 season compared to Fieldens 139 in 6 seasons with Manfredi coming in second place'"
Great talent Nigel Wright but he literally used to get injured getting out of bed. |
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