I was banging the drum earlier on in the season for SW to go, much like jonh I didn’t (and still don’t) like his style of play, his decisions baffle me and we looked clueless in attack - despite at the time being top scorers in the league. Quite rightly I was shot down, it gives me no pleasure to see the team playing the way they are.

I wanted SW out then, I still do now however when there’s no one better to replace him; why bother? I get what some are saying in that “You don’t know unless you try” but whats the point in that? Despite this ‘crisis’ we’re still 2nd in the league.

This will all blow over IMHO. It’s not the end of our season, to the contrary there’s still all to play for (minus the obvious). Sometimes it’s “better the devil you know, than the devil you don’t”.

Powell is a limited player that gives everything. It's not his fault he isn't what we need, it's the fault of the coach that decided we don't need a top quality scrum half to control the team. Wane decided we needed and average Joe that will do as told, be unspectacular and go through the motions.

A partner for Williams? You do realise the 7 players on completely the other size of the pitch? Hard to listen at times when people don't even seem to understand the structure of a team.
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i'm getting to the point now where I do not actually feel any anger or bad feelings towards Wane. he has a tough job on to retain his reputation if he has not yet got a new position away from Wigan.

having said that, I actually think Wane has decided to leave due to the poor handling of the club, player contracts etc above Wane. I've said for a long time that the club has been badly managed in recent years and it is only in times like this that any of you even remotely agree with me.

lets think about it, would he really want Micky to have gone? would Micky have gone if the FPN issue was dealt with by the club more promptly? would he have given Williams the marquee spot if it was entirely up to him? would the Tomkins' issue have been handled promptly (assuming Wigan DID know about the incidents real time) if Wane had his way? would Wane have wanted Sam, Sutton and possibly Bateman to leave had wigan had to money to retain them?

I honestly think Wane is getting nowhere with the club, has been like this for a while and he has decided enough is enough and for that I do not fault him. the blame lies above if you ask me and it is now clearly having an impact on the players. has there been a "public" fallout within the club that has brought this on what with the many recent events, good or bad? I think so.

id expect Wane to want to stay on and try and fix this. the only way I can see him leaving early (like you say, who is available?!) is if wigan decide to cut ties. and if that does happen that will only further prove my feelings to be valid.

"I'm the most stubborn man in the world. (Owner and chairman) Ian Lenagan and (executive director) Kris Radlinski have always been loyal to me and I pick my own players. If I want a player, they say 'great' and they go and get them for me.

The fact that he has been stopped resigning these duds and giving more cash to players like Powell IS THE REASON HE IS GOING!

whether that is the case or not surely the onus is on the people in higher positions to dictate or at least provide input. again that is not wane's fault, if he has been given free reign the fault lies with who has given him that power, not him himself.

Fully understand thanks.

They’ll always be called halfback partners regardless of them being split or not. When I say he needs a ‘partner’ I mean in the sense that he needs somebody to take the burden off him in regards to creating and organising the team. At the minute it feels like all our hopes of breaking a team down fall at his feet and he looks like he’s going under.

Surely they are all accountable. I doubt it was Wane's idea to offer players leaving a lifeline and IMO I don't think IL could wait to re-sign them when they came available again. The recruitment is rubbish (Sarge for goodness sake) but if Wane said he wanted him why wasn't Rads presenting him with alternatives? I don't just meen for Sarge either. Finally it's Wane who runs the team day to day. He sets the tactics, picks the team and makes the substitutions. I doubt IL told him to give Powell the 7 jersey but again all three of them are culpable in giving Powell a pay rise and new deal and doing stuff like signing Navarette on a three year deal off the back of no form at all. If Wane asks for these deals and IL simply agrees you have to question IL's wisdom. It's one thing to not dictate to your coach but another to be flinging money at players you must yourself see are questionable signings.

Sorry Nicky, was said in jest!

I think a lot falls on Lockers. He's the link between the 6 and 7, however teams can see what we're doing coming a mile off. by the time the ball reaches the 6/7 the other teams edge defence is all over them.

I don't even know who our attacking team coach is.

SW has said a couple of times, I've heard at least, that he doesn't sign the players. Kris Rad does that. He just gets on with the coaching side of things.

When he first resigned I was surprised given there was improvement in the team and prospects were on the up. I always thought Wane would either be (at some point as most coaches are) sacked or carried out in a pine box. There was, I thought, no way he'd leave of his own volition. When it was announced I assumed like many others he had a job offer and I thought if so, he's made a smart move leaving while he is doing well. If he wanted a coaching career it was good to move on and not be labelled too much the one club man. I also didn't think his resignation would have a great effect on the team. We won a cup in the year Madge left for example so why would Wane saying he was going make any difference to our prospects? It seemingly has and the one thing that is different that I can see is he is not leaving for positive reasons. He's just resigned with no job to go to and contrary to expectations he has no job offer. If he'd been offered an NRL job as Madge was then he'd be leaving for positive reasons but with no job to go to he's basically just chucked in the towel.

Now that I can see affecting the morale of the squad. He just doesn't want to do the job anymore.

I have never thought Wane has exercised particularly good judgement and he often never knows when to shut up so ends up criticising individual players to the press which most other coaches would never do for example. I think he has exercised ill judgment in announcing his resignation when he did. He had no idea how it might affect the players so him doing that [iwas all about him[/i. He's got an ego the size of a planet so he announced it when it suited him and he got a lot of publicity out of it but given he is just walking away with no job to go to, it's no real surprise if he seemingly can't be bothered his players can't either.

Cruncher said earlier he thought Wane took a gamble in announcing his resignation when he did. What was he hoping to win from his wager? Given the team was going well I can't see why he would do it to get extra motivation to have the players send him off a champion coach. All it's seemingly done is derail the season making his job prospects worse if it carries on. Now that would be ironic. Resigned when his stock was improving even with skeptical fans and succeeds in making himself unemployable.

I pretty much agree with all of that, DaveO.

At the end of last season all the season ticket holders were sent an email asking many questions about their match day experience. In there were questions relating to our performance . I, for one, made my feelings clear about the lack of entertainment over the previous season and beyond. If many others responded in the same way then surely the powers that be must have put this to the coaching team and the writing was probably on the wall from that point forward. I personally feel following that survey this was going to be Wanes final season at Wigan. Bar a couple of matches the arm wresting style has continued unabated . It’s just not entertaining , whether we win trophies or not. The crowds are falling and it looks like Lenegan decided at the beginning of this campaign it would be Wanes last . Maybe Wane was being ironic to tender his notice following one of the teams better displays.
I’m sure it will all come out in the wash at some point

I agree Dave. I said at the time that his timing was all about him and not for the good of the team. Big mistake in my book and one that could end up tarnishing his reputation. I hope not, of course, and we go on to win the GF although that's not looking very likely at the moment.