What amazes me is that we have not decided on a scapegoat yet. Last time we had an injury crisis like this Kevin Brown got it and we lost a, then, potentially fine player. That said I cannot imagine us carrying this roster into next year. Already three lads know that they will be leaving but that will still leave us with four or five wingers. At least we will have another centre available unless Higginson gets the boot. I do not think that there are as many u19s comming through as in previous years as lads like Ganson and Worthington have another season at u19.

Wouldn't mind betting Hardaker was paid for against St Helens in the cup with a near sell out crowd of 5,200 and a bit.

There's rumblings of some movement because it seems that the political people are feeling the heat and are deciding to do what they promised they'd do years ago.

The likeliest scenario is that we'll be playing out of Dewsbury next season but only for a year, the same way that Saints did at Widnes, and either a new stadium for 2019 where it was promised, a redeveloped Belle Vue as a potentially cheaper option for the developer, or a stadium on land yet to be identified by the council.

The rumblings behind the scenes hint at more than empty promises. If they turn out to be empty again, I fear that the chairman will cash in his chips and sell out to somewhere like Coventry. It wouldn't be his fault if he did. The list of guilty parties in this fiasco can get quite long.

Sad if true. Surely this has to be sorted once and for all.

Assuming there's no turning back and playing out of Belle Vue next season. Either a full redevelopment or new site has to be taken in twelve months time, but with no sign of spades in the ground and a move to Dewsbury on the cards you'd have to be worried. More red tape and all that!

Attendances at Dewsbury will no doubt be affected (six miles away). Financial suicide if there's no new stadium at the end of it!

Yup, and the chairman is potentially playing a bit of brinkmanship, but someone's got to try. All I've worked out so far is that Michael Carter is not a man you'd play poker against. He's a canny operator, and I have a feeling that it will all work out.

It does when you have the injuries we have but you are spot on. Playing like the 1st 17 is out on the pitch or Flower and Clubb are sat on the bench when they are not. We are not playing smart enough given the injury situation in either game management (taking two points as Hull did when up 8-0), tactics or substitutions (Wakey was appalling for that).

Isa is bringing criticism on himself for stupid actions,fully deserved and defiantly not being used as a scapegoat. I do think Tierney is seeing some harsh criticism and will become the scapegoat and could end up (probably rightly with the other personnel we have) coming to the end of the road as a Wigan player at the end of the season.

Just like with [iStuart Fielden[/i then !

Your point?

(If you even thought that far ahead)

And let me make it easier for you.....

If you are even *thinking* of accusing us of breaking the salary cap when we signed Fielden - Don't, because we didn't.

As has been mentioned before (ad nauseum), we were charged with (and found guilty of) "breaking the SPIRIT of the salary cap", by using a practise that was standard up to that point (and still is in the world of sport), of asking some players to defer some of their salary into the following year, effectively back-loading their contract.

And to clarify again - This "rule" that we were found guilty of breaking did not even exist until the RFL invented it, just in time to charge us retrospectively with it.

So, if you have *ANY* point to make - Other than the one outline above - Please submit it for consideration (and most likely, ridicule)

I see we've got Leigh up next. Time to put up with this clown for a few days again.

considering that dewsbury were refused entry into super league,due to the stadium not being of the required standard,and to my knowledge has not been altered since,then how on earth would you be allowed to play there next season ?????.the mind boggles.

The stadium has been built up including a new stand and scoreboard, the capacity is still slightly lower than what it needs to be but there's option to build out a further temporary stand. It's a cracking little ground now, probably not suitable for permanent super league but more than adequate for a temporary period

i last visited around 2 years ago,its either fit for super league or not.3000 covered seats ?????.i like the place,but come on,super league standard.and that applies to wheldon road also.twenty years down the track from minimum standards and speccies still being asked to pay good money for victorian facillities.how have leeds got away with charging away fans to stand in the rain for twenty years,and people wonder about shrinking attendances.

The transfer fee has already been agreed between both clubs and is legally binding (that was part of the deal when we took him on loan)