It certainly did and it's the reason why i want to throw everything behind the players. They're giving it everything and looking for the answers. We need those answers to arrive in the next month but who knows, stranger things have happened.

I know I'm skeptical, quite negative at times, probably even scathing, but it's only because I know this team, even with the injuries, have massively under performed all season with our attacking play. I've no wish to see Wane sacked, all I want is our team to perform to their potential, if that entails replacing Wane then so be it, if it means bringing some new back room staff then so be it. The fact is though, to get us reaching our potential, we need change, and I just hope to God IL knows this and has a plan, either with or without Wane. My main concern is that he does nothing at all.

Great post as always.

Totally agree.

Couldn't agree more. Great credit on stealing the win but the club has to offer more than that IMO.

I fully agree. My call would be to bring in a strong assistant with a real attacking pedigree but maybe Wane doesn't want that. If he doesn't then maybe the he's reached the end because we certainly need a change and he should recognize that himself.

I can't help but wonder what is happening behind the scenes. Are the players happy after the 'events' of mid season? Are players carrying injuries? I've read rumors that Williams is carrying an injury and Wane has mentioned this week that Sam is hardly training.

The one thing I do know is that if we could pull off a grand final win this year I think it'd be the sweetest feeling in my nigh on 30 years watching us because of the circumstances.

Heart by the bucketload but they're so infuriating to watch, same mistakes/penalties week after week, put themselves under totally unnecessary pressure then decide to play for the last 15mins.
It's just, just.....

We had plenty of pressure in the cup run and managed to win, lack of knowledge about Hull, as we have won loads of games this year in the last 20, usually we are very strong in the last 20.

We do lack something in attaxk, but played some good stuff first half and not taking those chances and dropping the ball 3 times in the 10 mins was the reason we lost.

Wigan deserved the win, thought Williams, Gelling and Tauti were excellent. Maybe the worst game I have seen Sam T play, needs a big off season.

I'd disagree about Sam. He's a marked man these days as such struggles to do the eye catching stuff. I thought he was much better than in recent weeks. The attention he attracts creates space for others, as a team we need to be better at exploiting that. I believe he's playing injured and not training much. I would be surprised to see him become unavailable for England.

I thought both teams did ok tonight without being spectacular. Could have gone either way.

Great game hope it has tired some players out for next week

You should have won it in the first half when you were all over us. Then you had that failed lunge early in the second half and the momentum swung. Agree that Gelling (really had his right head on tonight) and Tautai were excellent. Williams once again showed what he can do, but he's a ball-runner, not a game-runner. If he could add that to his skills... Tomkins wasn't bad; he was solid in defence and under the high ball, if offering not so much in attack.

I disagree. We've won loads of games this season in the last 20 minutes. You kept at us in the cup semi and we didn't fall away. The last 20 last night was a cup hangover IMO and winning the cup is possibly why we'll not get to the GF this year. No one outside of Hull can even begin to understand what winning at wembley meant to the club and it will be hard for us to peak again after that.

We created enough opportunities in the 1st half to have the game won but we didn't take them and you were worth winners in the end. If you're not better than that next week I expect wire to win though

2 similar sides. IMO both struggled in final third of the pitch but that SL .
Doesn't anyone on here rate Bateman ? 110 % both in defence and ball in hand, thought he threatened every time he took on our line .
Sam T has become pantomime villain, at times seems to annoy his team mates , certainly not deserving of an international place which shows how weak SL is !

As I just said on another thread Gelling gave 200% last night as did Williams, but I just can't work out why Tierney is even given a shirt currently, he is a liability and it looks as if the players have little confidence giving him the ball? Hampshire out on loan looks much better all round.

SL standard is really dropping and yes Sam T has been disappointing, but the game itself is a shambles, I could not believe the figures 17 minutes into the second half how long the ball had been in play all the game, it is a disgrace.

But last night was further proof that the standard of referees is abysmal, Thaler pulled Wigan up in the first half several times, and just ignored the constant flops and holding down from Hull, he is so weak getting the players onside, and the references to the video referee are a joke recently? there seems no consistency? Thursday evening I gave up watching the match as I was bored and sick and tired of the referee shouting or screeching more like a girl, then the mates attitude with players, telling players well done with a tackle, same with get onside, penalise them, but holding down and now playing for penalties makes the game look a farce, when players often go for the penalty and the tacklers are off them?

For too long we have called RU kick and clap, but we are getting even worse than they were.

Is that a serious question about Bateman? I would assume most Wigan fans rate him as our best player.