The difference being that if he had have stuck it out, grafted in NSW Cup or whatever he may have got a chance - he was never, ever going to walk into the first grade side.

Not being able to get into the 2nd bottom side of the NRL and instead deciding to take the easy option and return to Wigan for mega bucks is probably somewhat galling for your other youth players.

If a player wants to leave for any club (eg. Hardaker) that's totally fine - but its appalling that they are back within Super League a year or two - and if Hardaker does the same, you can refer back to this post.

You can add Mossop, Flanagan and Cooper to that list

Don't forget Saints have got Tele Tubby Owens and Les Dawson. Great signing for Wigan well done to all concerned.

I always thought that it was two or three years too soon for Burgess to go to Aus and The Roosters in particular. They had Daniel Touou and Shaun Kenny-Dowall in the side, with Latrell Mitchell also coming through their system. All those three would walk into any Superleague team.
I'll be really pleased to see him back at Wigan, his try scoring to game ratio was up there with the best in the Superleague era and he us still very young, a great move by Wigan IMO.

I don't see what the issue is though? He is better than any of our current youth players. He wasn't getting a game and we needed a winger after Charnley leaves. He is IMO the best winger we could've signed to replace Charnley realistically. Why is it so bad that players might want to come back?

He was truly atrocious in defence. He was dropped to reserve grade on multiple occasions over the last couple of years. And was overweight and out of shape. Not to mention the last 2 years in a row his kicking % was less than 70%. And he scored a total of 5 tries in two seasons.
However, now he looks great, and I would love him to be playing for us. Which is my point, Super League isn't NRL, and just because a player does't succeed in the NRL doesn't mean he won't be brilliant in the Super League.

Looking like he'll be going to team up with Maguire and the Rabbitohs for the rest of the NRL season before coming back.

Where've you seen/heard this?

Owens could have solved our goal kicking headache (if we have one, Smith is kicking pretty well).

Saints recruitment has been woeful recently hasn't it?!

With the exception of Fages, it's been shocking. I'm sure they had higher hopes that the likes of Burns would produce more and I thought he would've been a better signing than he has proved. Is the money not there or has McManus's arms shrank?

Ignore him. The issue is he is upset because Wigan have pulled off a major piece of business. If he had signed for Leeds he would have been all over the forum saying what a wonderful player he was and how the NRL have messed up in letting him back to Superleague.

Can people not reply to new usernames who first posts seems to be a trolling exercise, thanks. It's what they want.

Quote: Lippy "Signed from next year as a replacement for josh. Well done Rads!'" I predicted this signing way back in March Quote: Lippy "Joe Burgess will be back in a Wigan shirt and wont be offered a new contract at the Roosters, possibly as soon as next season due to missing his family etc'" viewtopic.php?f=2&t=592713&start=10

Quote: Lippy "Signed from next year as a replacement for josh. Well done Rads!'" I predicted this signing way back in March Quote: Lippy "Joe Burgess will be back in a Wigan shirt and wont be offered a new contract at the Roosters, possibly as soon as next season due to missing his family etc'" viewtopic.php?f=2&t=592713&start=10

Moley's posted it. At least he'll get some more games under his belt, albeit in a woefully, regularly beaten team.

Like Hodgson and Whitehead and Burgess (x3) and Graham and Ellis and Morley and Cooper...

Nah you're talking shat. Some make it, some don't. It's worth trying if you have any ambition about you (see Ryan Hall).

It's just easier to go if you're a forward (unless you're Mossop) as proven by the names above.

What's embarrassing is "whales in puddles" like Peacock, Hall, Roby, Sinfield who settle for average careers in an average league without trying to go and play against the best in the world.

Oh and your posts. Them too.