Maybe "Beware Shadows" should be renamed "Beware Saints Fan having a go at all things Wigan"

And were up 6% overall in 2014 compared to 2013.

Using 2 games as an example is like saying that the league table at the moment holds any validity. There are lots of factors that can be said about both the catalan (first game of the season, last years winners) and Castleford (disappointment of the Souths game, on a Friday on sky vs Sunday in summer last year) games, overall, we were up last year, and have every chance of being overall this year.

So they are down then? and not up as you said.
I agree that it's too early to see how things will out, but a lot will depend on which teams you get at home after the split.

One is up, one is down in the same games in the first two home games last year vs hull and hkr the attendances are to a man the same and up by 2k on average of you include the first 3 games!

What's the saying about lies and statistics?

I think most clubs are seeing the post split games as bonuses regardless of who they're against ...

On the mobile currently.

So cant check my facts easily. But from memory. Cas Widnes possible hull kr.

But I prefer to judge after a full season. We are not even 10 games in, so as I said before to early to judge.

To be honest (and as a longstanding RL fan I take no pleasure in saying this) I have found RL increasing boring over the past few seasons. Five drives and kick, 13 big lumps v 13 big lumps .... it just bores me.
I used to love watching the special players who used to scare me when they had ball in hand - Drummond, Johnathon Davies, Scot Gibbs.
Even the kids weren't that bothered about renewing the season tickets .... I'm even close to cancelling Sky Sports I've so little interest these days.
I would much prefer a return to specialist positions, a variety in styles of play (at least Saints try and move the ball, proper commentators (Eddie & Stevo are pitiful)and some competent ref's.

the fatc that ther l;eague means very little stopped us getting season tickets. Add to the fact Wigan are "slow starters" there is no point going early season. Get tickets from groupon etc but thats it. Sad state of affairs but thats the way SL has been.

You need get yourself more involed,not everything happens in SL...

That's exactly the way I feel and have done for a while. The kids are bored with a game with no stars or excitement. We may get 3 or 4 games a year at home with a decent atmosphere, the rest are just like sitting in a church. We need big names back in the game who will create anticipation and excitement. The clown, Nigel Wood, talks about a vision but he is not in touch with reality and I cannot see how the game will grow.

maybe its because they play on a saturday afternoon when its easier for Dads to take their kids? thus introducing the next generation of fans to football via Wigan athletic .

Friday nights limits it to taking babies who dont know whats happeing anyway, and older kids who are already steeped in football.

IMO crowds started decling in when we started playing on friday nights. And who is to blame? Sky TV

If Saturdays are a no no then Friday night is easily the best option.

Friday night games are an excellent way (at least they used to be) to start the weekend. It allows you to have a few beers and then meet up with friends at the pub after.

I think it will take a couple of big teams missing out on the 4 this year for fans to appreciate the importance of regular season games after a few years of pointless matches.

I can see this season's crowds improving from here and next season's crowds being strong.

As well wigan has a good fan base in coppull ,chorley (me one of them) and since 2014 the last bus from wigan to chorley is 21.45 instead of 23.10 meaning I have to add a extra 15 pound for a taxi so I can see the whole game as I dont drive ,the chorley to wigan bus was allways full of supporters match days now its the odd 2 or 3.