It may "only" be 2:15 on the train from Euston, but that's just not how it works. I work in Victoria, supposing I left work on the dot of 5pm ( I don't know when the last time that actually happened) it'll take me 30 minutes to get to Euston (and that's if I'm lucky and can physically get on the first tube that turns up which is 50/50 at best) - so I'd get to Euston at around 5:30, which, more likely than not means I'll of missed the 17:30 to Wigan, which leaves me the option of the 17:43 (which gets to wigan at 20:37) the 17:57 (20:00) or 18:30 (20:25) - aka I'm missing the match. So my choices are either leave work early (not gonna happen) or not go - based on trains alone.

That's before I look into return journey (which would be potentially more important than the journey there), financial implications, potential delays on trains, politics of the office for me leaving early or anything else.

Regards
The typical london worker.

No-one "allows" you to be a fan. You either are a fan or you are not.

Anyone who doesn't go to the game when they just sit by the tele or would rather go to the pub and get p!ssed whilst watching is making a deliberate choice not to attend. I would suggest that is absolutely fine, it's a free country. Just don't bore me with your theories about how IL or SW should be doing this or that because your views don't count. You have already voted with your feet by not bothering to go to the game.

If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.

Obviously anyone who lives hundreds of miles away doesn't fall into that category. But then you knew that because I had already made that pretty clear to the guy who lives in Cirencester.

From reading your previous posts you obviously make great efforts to attend whenever you can, so I don't understand why you are arguing with my point.

I will use that line on my uncle who attended pretty much every home game for 40 years who no longer goes due to ill health

You really so far up your own ar$e I bet you can see you teeth from the back! J mean, a complete f***ing tool. I didn't go to the game last night and I live just outside the town centre. Now, I didn't go because I simply can't afford it. It's not long of Xmas day which also happens to be my daughters 5th birthday so I'm choosing to spend my hard earned on Lego and a f***ing huge sylvanian families dolls house

Ill hand my fan card into you personally if you can manage to remove your head

Oh dear, I seem to have touched a nerve. A while ago you told me you weren't going to read my posts again, you should have stuck to your guns mate. You sound like you are in poor mental health.

As for whether you can't afford it - I don't believe you. We all make choices. As you've said you're in work. The cost of watching RL is dirt cheap. A fan would find the money.

You're not a fan - that's ok. But your views are worthless.

another thread for locking methinks

Back OT, just watched it back and Sky tried to be clever with the graphics on the pitch on the wide shot in the first half, so it was a few seconds out of synch with the close-up shots. They scrapped the graphic after half time and it was fine.

I can only assume that this comment is facetious, or that you didn't actually read my post.

The only way the trip is in any way feasible is if you don't have a job. The only way you could afford to make that journey is if you have a job. See the paradox?

Are you for real?? I'm genuinely interested, do you actually believe people should justify why they did or didn't attend the game last night????

ABOVE US ONLY PIE... do you have SKY SPORTS etc?

if so you are not a fan of any sport, because you watch it on the tele instead and do not attend games. what a worthless argument you are trying to put across here. give it up. people are entitled to follow a team in any way they feel, are able to or even simply just want to. If it doesn't live up to your standards then go buy an executive box and watch from there instead.

As you are genuinely interested- no I don't think people should justify why they don't go to the game. But if they offer an opinion then it should be informed.

I would have thought that people would be ashamed at the crowd last night. It was a poor effort. I feel for the players playing in front of a stadium one third full. Perhaps if all the so-called fans abandoned their keyboards and went the game occasionally we might have better informed debate.

Nothing to do with my standards. Just take a look at a dictionary definition of "fanatic".

Of course I watch the football on sky sports. I'm not a fan though cos I don't go. Simple really.

There doesn't need to be a debate informed or otherwise, the discussion is about the poor editing on the sky footage, anybody who chose to watch the match on the TV and have an opinion on the quality of the footage should not have to justify themselves as a fan to you or anybody and for you to have an opinion on wether somebody can afford to go to a game or not is utterly disrespectful.

Of course it is poor that the crowds drop for cup and play off matches but when cost comes into it that's always going to be the case.