Always right.

Exactly. I dont know what the answer is, I just think its the typical RL fan whinging attitude to be honest. Even if it was free there would be a reason not to go.

Sorry but you're talking utter nonsense, you can't manufacture atmosphere? That's exactly what they did successfully for nearly two years solid. You're exactly what is wrong with our fans, we can't do anything about the atmosphere so get used to it.

What does it matter who and how people go about creating an atmosphere, the atmosphere at games just a few years ago was becoming one of the best in SL. It's what the players want to play in front of, instead of shooting down great efforts of people who try, why don't you come up with some ideas yourself.

"It lasted as long as those involved were interested and was seen as a clique or if you prefer some sort of club within a club."

Thought it was because they were banned for the misbehaviour of a few. Probably by the same people who complained until the Drum was banned. Our rented accommodation is a joke.

When the Brigantes first came about with the colourful flags above the South Stand, the flag waving at the bottom and the banners in the crowd it was fantastic. It was the best atmosphere we had probably ever seen at the DW. Okay, it still wasn't outstanding but it was so much better than nothing.

A club within a club? You seriously need to get over yourselves with that attitude. Some Wigan fans pi$$ and moan about the lack of atmosphere yet condemned one of the best things for generating atmosphere in what was basically a "fans movement".

It is a shame that some morons got involved and spoiled it to a certain extent but I honestly don't see why the movement couldn't have continued to exist despite that.

The people running the original Brigantes with the flags and scarves were clearly sensible and knowledgeable people who are passionate about the club and did all they could in their spare time to have meetings and generate ideas. I thought it was bloody marvellous and before anyone says, no, I wasn't a part of the movement but I admired it from my seat in the East Stand.

It was great and it inspired things like the "Fat Dogs" at Bradford. For a brief spell it became the envy of many fans of opposition Super League clubs based on what was going on at both home and away matches. I'd love to see it return. The movement should be resurrected.

For those who don't like the Brigantes, for those who don't like the drum but continue to moan about the poor atmosphere. What is it that you exactly want? Besides moaning consistently about anything. If you don't like noise, don't go to an event which consistently sees 11,000+ people attend.

Stay at home, draw your curtains and be an armchair fan in the comfort of your own silence.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank those who take their time to put up the flags at the top of the South Stand. It's the one bit of residue left from a really positive and vibrant movement created by the fans.

Nothing like a spectacularly patronising generalisation is there!

From a personal perspective Saturday games, unless they are teatime/evening KO, are difficult for me to get to due to other commitments and I suspect for a lot of people that is far more of a motivation than the cost for why people didn't show up.

The flags were great, the singing was great, the drums were great.
The writing however was on the wall as soon as the scull & crossbones flag came out, the language deteriorated and they started wearing hoodies with scarves covering their faces. Prefer the way we are to that.

Can I please point out that the few that were banned were not in anyway linked to the 'Brigantes', they were a group of lads that tried to attach themselves to the group and were shunned but followed the others to games and due to their own 'agenda' ended up getting punished after the Huddersfield affair.

Lets face it the game is dying - waves of talent lured away to NRL or RU, no major stars to light up a crowd, dreary games, videos refs boring the pants of us all and the new farce of a comp which no one understands. Its is very difficult to keep the enthusiasm of my 12 & 13 yr old lads but at least the flags, drums, songs and enthusiasm they generated gave them some enjoyment.

The original Brigantes were also the people who created the new songs that have now become popular e.g. 'Cherry and White' & 'We are the Boys'.

What happened to that 'We Are Wigan' group? They had meetings with the club, lots of positivity etc and then all of a sudden it just went quiet. Anyone know?

They didn't realise how much hard work was required.

I would normally go to cup games etc. However, as a ST holder, I'm getting fed up of the club offering regular season games to non-ST holders throughout the season at discounted prices when I've paid not far off full price for each match through buying a season ticket. Lets face it, there isn't that much of a discount. I'm paying to go to crap games like Bradford and Harlequins when non-ST holders can just turn up for the big games or half decent games at a fraction of the cost. That is why I couldn't be d paying even more to attend the cup game, especially with it being on TV. If it wasn't for me wanting to keep my seats, I wouldn't bother getting a ST again.

This.