Why do I need to take those out? As stated we are already missing five players from the first choice 17. As you said you are missing Charnley, O'Loughlin, Clubb, Flower and Farrell, from first choice 17. Five players.

I wasn't trying to have a p15sing contest, as I accepted Wigan had more players missing. Just pointing out the reality of the first choice 17.

But the you took out our starting loose in Delaney.

So which is it? Sinfield for leadership or Delaney at loose?

Are you missing both hookers like Burrow and Aiton?

i am comparing players who play similar roles Delany for Farrell and not Ablett I'm not saying position for position. its also not a ing contest more of a showing that we are missing a a lot of leadership and big game players.

its a bit unfair to say the injuries balance them selves out considering you still have your first choice winger, captain and senior prop and over all we have more injuries in the forwards.

But you said on the previous page it was like for like, go back and look it's still there.

If Farrell is Delaney then who is for Ablett?

I agree it's not a pi**ing contest, just pointing out the flaws in the comparisons.

I would say Wigan are more effected by their absentees, but that's because the players stepping up for us are better.

No Leeds aren't missing first choice wing or prop, neither are Wigan missing two hookers and having to play a second row there and drag Sinfield out of position to do a job there too. Regarding that, Sutcliffe has come on in previous games when Si field has moved to 9. He's at centre tonight so we have to reshuffle too there.

Dudson is a f***ing moron. Absolute liability.

Ben Thaler is out of his depth.

Sinfield bought that dummy beautifully.

Our kick defence is shocking at times. Not sure what Manfredi offers over Sarginson on the wing to be honest.

Still, what a great win.

Hopefully we'll have a few back for Salford on Thursday. Sounds like Blake Green will be out for a while

really. there goes any excuse that people used in last seasons play off final, battered and still won.

By battered you mean 4 points and a ball scraping Manfreidi nose deciding it?

Ok then

You battered Bradford
You battered Hull

You were the better team tonight, but battering.....no.