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Just got back.

They did enough and no more. It was won by half-time, so I had a feeling they were under orders to take it easy in the second period.

Long spells of Hunslet on our line was a bit frustrating for the fans, even if we did hold them out.

Games like that remind me there are several players in our second string who I don't think will find a permanent home in the first team.

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Quote: dubairl "poor performance by the sounds of it and it sounded like Hunslet was gutsy in the 2nd half.'"


One or two of your posts on this thread have been a touch disrespectful of the Challenge Cup and a bunch of blokes who have turned up knowing they were going to get a hiding - but put an effort in for the pride of their club and travelling fans.

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Quote: Shoe Shine Johnny "One or two of your posts on this thread have been a touch disrespectful of the Challenge Cup and a bunch of blokes who have turned up knowing they were going to get a hiding - but put an effort in for the pride of their club and travelling fans.'"



just being truthful, no doubt Hunslet work their socks off to be where they are but how does today help them? Challenge cup has past its usefulness. swap it with a 2 weekend 9's tournament.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: dubairl "just being truthful, no doubt Hunslet work their socks off to be where they are but how does today help them? Challenge cup has past its usefulness. swap it with a 2 weekend 9's tournament.'"

Sod that! Alright it throws up some batterings but I stil love the Challenge Cup, I'd like them still play it in April/May though as they us to.

On the game - thought we tried to do too much once we got a big lead on, then we calmed down and played out the clock. Not the greatest spectacle in the world but ATEOTD we're in the hat , hopefully dodging Leeds, Cas and Wire in the next round

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Quote: Grimmy "Sod that! Alright it throws up some batterings but I stil love the Challenge Cup, I'd like them still play it in April/May though'"


it needs to be radically changed in it present format it will never grow and only decline. Lower teams next year will get a good shot at super league clubs and then there will be no need for the challenge cup. Just retire it to Wigan and all will be happy. Mid season ashes series or a 9's Festival.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: dubairl "it needs to be radically changed in it present format it will never grow and only decline. Lower teams next year will get a good shot at super league clubs and then there will be no need for the challenge cup. Just retire it to Wigan and all will be happy. Mid season ashes series or a 9's Festival.'"

They are changing it, Super League clubs are going in at round 5, which means most seasons we probably won't play a none-SL team at all

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Quote: Grimmy "Sod that! Alright it throws up some batterings but I stil love the Challenge Cup, I'd like them still play it in April/May though as they us to.

On the game - thought we tried to do too much once we got a big lead on, then we calmed down and played out the clock. Not the greatest spectacle in the world but ATEOTD we're in the hat , hopefully dodging Leeds, Cas and Wire in the next round'"


Dodge Wire? They would do for me fine. I doubt Wane would fancy a trip to the i-pitch.

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Quote: dubairl "it needs to be radically changed in it present format it will never grow and only decline. Lower teams next year will get a good shot at super league clubs and then there will be no need for the challenge cup. Just retire it to Wigan and all will be happy. Mid season ashes series or a 9's Festival.'"


You are talking nonsense. The Challenge Cup Final is one of the major sporting events of the year and you want to swap it for a Nines competition? Bonkers. It attracts interest, national TV coverage and generates publicity.

It is also worth a lot of money to the clubs who get to the final. More than the GF I believe.

The fact odd fixtures through up results and games like today's is no reason to scrap the competition or change it for a nines tournament.

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Quote: dubairl "poor performance by the sounds of it and it sounded like Hunslet was gutsy in the 2nd half.'"


It was poor form us in the 2nd half and Hunslet never gave up. We ended up playing one man rugby and coughed up a lot of errors. Unlike when we played Bradford we were just not clinical enough to carry on as we started and to be fair Hunslet didn't capitulate like Bradford did.

It was quite a reserve team for a lot of the game despite the initial line up looking quite strong and ultimately it was disappointing to see such a disjointed performance from us.

While people moan about blow out scores comparing the Bradford and Hunslet games is interesting because whatever your views on the level of the opposition and what the score says about the game in general Wigan approached the Bradford game far better than they did the Hunslet game in terms of being clinical and technically on the ball.

I agree with Cruncher that some players out of the 2nd string didn't enhance their chances of a long term future but it was so disjointed at times compared to how we played v Bradford I am not entirely sure it was their fault. Players like Hughes and Gelling looked poor but didn't get a whole lot of help form those around them either.

Manfredi looked good and nice to see Crosby back but most of the players put in pretty forgettable performances.

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Quote: DaveO "You are talking nonsense. The Challenge Cup Final is one of the major sporting events of the year and you want to swap it for a Nines competition? Bonkers. It attracts interest, national TV coverage and generates publicity.

It is also worth a lot of money to the clubs who get to the final. More than the GF I believe.

The fact odd fixtures through up results and games like today's is no reason to scrap the competition or change it for a nines tournament.'"



so we just forget about the 5 matches of poo before it? Also i think most 7 events generate more publicity and money than the challenge cup final does. yes teams get more money from it than the grand final but at the end of the day in modern day sport it still generates peanuts. 200k isn't something to get all touchy about.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: dubairl "so we just forget about the 5 matches of poo before it?'"

Just because we had an easy run last year doesn't mean the cup is always 5 matches of 'poo' before the final (it's 4 games before the final anyway btw). Look at 2011, we played Barrow, Bradford (who were better than they are now, it ended 26-22), Warrington, St Helens and Leeds. Four out of those five were brilliant televised games of knockout rugby which provided a great spectacle for both fans like me who go to the games and a great advert for the game for neutrals and fans such as yourself who listen on the radio/watch on tv. Aside from that, a big part of the cup to me is the fun away days it throws up such as Fev and Sheffield in recent years rather than us playing the same old teams every single week

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'm just looking at the programme from that 1965 game 8th May

The attendances are interesting.
Round 1 v Barrow (H) 13,217
Round 2 v Saints (h) 39,938
Round 3 v Workington (a) 17,741
Semi Final v Swinton at Knowsley Road 26,658

Over 89,000 attended the Final itself.'"


as opposed to Barrow H rd 4 2011 att 8026
saints H QF 2012 12,864
workington? would be lucky to be 8,000 now
Swinton? what happened to them?
Finals...last 2 we went to got a tad over 78,000

nobodies going to convince me the games not in decline.
Thanks for all the memories of the good old days.

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Quote: Grimmy "They are changing it, Super League clubs are going in at round 5, which means most seasons we probably won't play a none-SL team at all'"


one simple change would be to rename the early rounds as "preliminary rounds". Sounds slightly better having SL clubs entering at round 3 ?

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Swinton? what happened to them?


nobodies going to convince me the games not in decline.
Thanks for all the memories of the good old days.'"


I can remember being at Swinton with about 30,000 on there. Billy B was deemed in touch which lost us the game. That linesman Arnold Bagnall later became a relative of ours, though my old dad never forgave him.

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not enough promotion and community work being done, with plenty of other hobbies to do these days its more important that people are taught league at an early age in school.
We seriously fail when it comes to playing rugby in Schools, teachers just don't care and don't have time to do it so clubs and the RFL should pick up the slack.

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