The saints board is fecking hilarious right now! My favourite is that 'silverwood is an imbarresment to RL'

Whatever that is

Leeds were 8 points up and had to defend a few sets close to their line, i'd hardly call it rocking.

Well the excuses I'd heard over the last week were the losses were due to Saints taking it easy until they met Leeds in the cup. This was the big one and one where we'd see them back to their unbeatable best!

To be fair I thought they'd got themselves back into the game, they were 8 behind with 10 to go but had a bit of momentum. Amor getting injured killed it off. They lost all momentum at that point and from then on looked a beaten side.

Burrow reminds me of halfbacks of the past, Andy Gregory types who run across the line trying to draw players in then either putting a player through or suddenly going through themselves.

Why have those types of players gone from the game in exchange for a right or left side halfback as they are today?, I think they are called second receivers (left and right). Are Wigan not capable of having the Burrow type of game as an alternative to the famous well known structure when required.

Looking on the Leeds forum, Burrow has aparrently broken his collar bone. Some suggesting 10-12 weeks out.

We'll I expected a far more intense game I think what we did to them on Good Friday has hit them hard physically and mentally, roll on Friday should be a good test

TBH I thinks the signs were there in the games vs Hudds and Cas when they scraped over the winning line (and should've lost both.) They looked shot and spent physically which is alarming considering we're only 10 league games in.

With Amor struggling with injuries and Roby overworked they have little left without them two at their best lifting the others around them.

I thought this period would be make or break for Saints and so far its been an epic failure. Top side atm is Wigan with Leeds & Cas not too far behind. Wigan v Leeds should be a cracker.

Due to your backline I'd have Leeds as the team to beat this year but we do seem to be able to rise to the challenges in the big games. I wouldn't write Saints off yet though. They will have a few weeks rest now due to their cup involvement ending and when they play with confidence they can put plenty of points on. I also think Wire will be dangerous at the back end of the year when Russell, Ratchford and Myler/O'Brien have bedded in as that creative triangle. As for Cas they're having a great weekly round season but they'll get burned against any of the teams I mention in a knock out game. They're the 2014 version of Huddersfield of 2013 only not as good.

I'm not surprised, one of the useless 1-25 stains players purposely extended his stride so he could plant his knee into the poor fellow. That should be a 6 match ban, but yet again it was missed by the officials and a lot of rugby fans by the look of it.

mash butty is that a saddend post by any chance?

Leeds look the exact same side from last year and I'm not sure if Briscoe is an improvement on BJB (he has ripped us up a few times), but we aren't the same side and its still to be seen wether we are better or worse. Just hope both teams give it there all and it will tell us a lot about our selves.

I would agree with you, they seem much the same to me, neither better nor worse overall just a very solid outfit at their best. Friday may reveal more about us than them!

I wouldnt mind if we drew them in the QF of the CC, Burrows is the only player who scares me in the Leeds team. Going back to the Burrows incident, that was a malicious knee, and if that was a Wigan player who had done that the other fans would let us know about it www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... St_Helens/ 2h:02m: 19s replay

I wouldnt mind if we drew them in the QF of the CC, Burrows is the only player who scares me in the Leeds team. Going back to the Burrows incident, that was a malicious knee, and if that was a Wigan player who had done that the other fans would let us know about it www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... St_Helens/ 2h:02m: 19s replay

This a great test to see where we are as I agree Leeds do look like the same side as last year but they've tightened up their defence massively and I think they have a greater threat in open field with their back 3. Hardaker is on fire, Briscoe has added a lot and Hall is the class that he always is.

Think the key to us getting them is if our pack can stand up to them like we did at Warrington and Saints. They've a few older forwards and some who aren't world beaters and if we can get on top of them we should do OK with the skill we have in attack