I try to be balanced in my views and like to think that whilst I'm Wigan through and through, I am big enough to appreciate that there are always 2 teams made up of mostly ordinary lads who love rugby league. You are correct that my frustration was with Micky if he did this. I wasn't at the game due to work commitments and I haven't seen the incident yet. However, there are several comments earlier in this thread suggesting that Dixon may have fallen into the challenge a little bit? The broken jaw is evidence enough of where the contact was made and the fact he's been charged tells it's own story.

MM is a great player and has matured massively in the last couple of seasons but does still let his aggression go too far. My point about Warrington was simply that I believe if we are to compete for top 4, we need our best players available for games against our top 4 rivals. I believe his probable ban would have less impact if for example we played London that week.

How you can detect malice from 80 yards away is beyond me. All I saw was MMc hit him and Dixon ending up on the floor. MMc had been going round looking to hurt someone the whole game. It's time for people to take off the cherry and white tinted glasses. I remember the furore on here last season when Cory Paterson hit Blake Green. Hanging wasn't good enough.

He was lucky not to be sent off. The ref ignored the noise from the home fans, which was credit to him, as he certainly wasn't a "homer". Although having sent Carney to the bin for a few punches that missed, I could understand the Cas fans frustration at the ref.

Mailicious or reckless is really neither here nor there. He was a danger to a fellow pro. He was miffed because we had just conceded again and looked to pin someone. He broke the guys jaw. In my book 2 games is pathetic. He should get 6.

I sincerely hope that Logan takes his chance and MMc has to work hard to get his place back. I was delighted by MMc last season, but as club skipper on the day he has let the club down badly. The club has a reputation amongst opposition fans as a bunch of head hunters and this kind of makes it difficult to argue otherwise, which annoys me because I don't see us as being any worse than anyone else.

Did you miss the bit where I said its difficult to judge without seeing replays?

I openly admitted that my judgement from 80 yards away on real time viewing may well be incorrect. On that one view it didn't look a purposeful challenge to try and hit Dixon high and he seemed to duck in to the challenge somewhat but could I hand on heart say that's how it was? Could I heck.

If it was a malicious attempt to hit the player high and considering the damage he's done he'd be lucky to get away with the 6 games you suggest.

The point is surely - no-one but the player himself can know whether it was malicious, so therefore it is an irrelevance. And as you well know, whether Dixon ducked into the challenge "somewhat" or not, is also an irrelevance. So why even mention it? Other than to excuse MMc.

I think it makes us bigger if we accept our faults (not make excuses) and work on them. MMc will have a few weeks now to consider things. I hope he comes back with a better attitude (like last season after getting a ban in the playoffs in 2012 for getting sent off in an otherwise meaninghless end of season game against Saints) and doesn't attempt to hurt anyone, thus giving away needless penalties, thus giving away field position, thus ultimately hurting his own team.

www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5009 Rule – 15.1(b) Detail – Reckless – tried to tackle but reckless about outcome Grade – C Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* - 2-3 Match ban

www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5009 Rule – 15.1(b) Detail – Reckless – tried to tackle but reckless about outcome Grade – C Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* - 2-3 Match ban

Why would a player ducking in to a challenge be an irrelevance? If you go to whack somebody around the chest and they duck the chances are your going to hit them higher on the body then originally intended.

He'll get what he deserves ultimately.

Yeah, that's definitely how it works with the RFL disciplinary

Looks like he's not taking the EGP and contesting the charge.

Whatever happens with the ban happens, but I'm interested to see do we really think he's captain material? He seems close to the edge a lot of the time and has a tendency to step over it. I don't really have him down as a leader and he seems to be struggling with his game enough at the moment without putting the captaincy on his shoulders...

If he does cop a ban then the captaincy will go to someone else until Lockers returns. From Sunday's game the obvious leader out there was Matty Smith both in the game he played and his vocal contribution.

Which would appear to show that Wigan think that Dixon fell into the tackle as is the thought of many of the fans who were at the game. I know we were a long way from it, but also the referee just gave a penalty. The video on Wigan t.v. is also inconclusive.
If Wigan or Cas have a better video of it then that should be used, and if the initial contact is to the jaw than he should be punished.

I thought Dixon mis judged the kick and he was off balance when MicMac tackled him.
Only seen it the once and from 80 yards away or so, that's what it looked like to me. Also from that distance and the fact Dixon stayed down I wondered if there'd been a clash of heads. Obviously not.

This continued search for mitigation is admirable. I mean - Dixon was falling, Dixon was off balance, Micky hit him on the shoulder first, Micky didn't intend to hurt him, Micky wasn't being malicious. How about this?

It should have been a penalty the other way really - Dixon shouldn't be hitting Mick's arm with his jaw. Something for Dixon to ponder on whilst he's sucking soup through a straw.

Have you watched it again. Can you honestly tell me where the contact is. I have and I can't, just as I couldn't on Sunday from where I was stood (a long way from the tackle)

That's why I said if there is better video evidence then let it be used and if it's proved that the contact was to the jaw then he deserves a long ban.

The referee and touch judges saw nothing other than a penalty, no sending off no on report and they were a lot closer than I (or I suspect you ) were.

Do you not think that this seems to happen far too often to MM to continue the road of "this is just bad luck"?

Whether it be intent, mistiming, or miscalculation, as a player he is involved in far too many of these incidents. I'm not suggesting burning him at the stake, but his tackling technique (if it is mistiming) or whatever the problem is needs to be rectified. Whether that's a prolonged stay on the sidelines, I don't know (it's not for me to say) - but teams shouldn't face Wigan EXPECTING to have a player taken out.